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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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now some of us are cutting-edge some of

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us are not cutting edge so just before

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we started doing this episode the power

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cast Chris tells me he's reading a

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magazine now that may not seem so

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unusual but I have a feeling here in

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2015 it is unusual for people to read

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magazines for people to read books and

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magazines well it's actually a catalog

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so I you know I did get them from time

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to time in the mail but but I do I do

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both occasionally read magazines of

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course I write for the world explorers

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magazine and I do the crypto corner

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feature every issue and by like reading

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Nexus Atlantis rising is another one

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that I read occasionally you know

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sometimes I'll stumble across some music

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magazines like mojo or some of the I

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like the European English ones but one

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more my information is coming from the

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net like everybody else and

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unfortunately I think the the heyday of

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the magazine and newspaper is long past

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yeah it's hard to look at these

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magazines that are cutting out the print

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versions of course in the computer

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business

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PC world magazine I believe stopped the

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print version last year and some months

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there's still a printed version but this

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is where things are going

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obviously the immediacy of the Internet

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is an excellent factor the fact that a

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story could be wrong and corrected on

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the spot or that new information could

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be added and certainly you don't have

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the space constraints of print where a

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magazine article may have to be 600

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words for example but you need a

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thousand words to tell it but online if

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the publisher has the budget okay do a

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thousand words the internet is the great

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you don't need a million dollar or a

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billion dollar publishing campaign to

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get your stuff out in print

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you just need a blog a free copy of

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WordPress and your may or may not gain

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traction you may or may not and if you

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don't you'll go back to your Dave job if

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you have one exactly in any case I was

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thinking here is it we were editing last

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week's episode with our guests mr. Rojas

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she is one fascinating gentleman and he

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seems to be less acceptance of things

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that I might have felt from the choice

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of guests over at the International UFO

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conference yeah you know he's kind of

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between a rock and a hard place really I

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have a sense that you know they they

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have to tread that line of getting good

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quality speakers you know who actually

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are presenting relevant cutting-edge

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research and yet making sure that at

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least some of the speakers have a big

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enough draw factor to put butts in the

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chairs and they do have 1500 chairs to

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fill there and it's not it's not an

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inexpensive event to to put on so they

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some of the more Yahoo type folks there

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Stan Romanek Steven Greer people like

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of attention and notoriety that that

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they they have of myself personally

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don't see any of that sort of

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the roster of speakers and I think it's

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a very it's a very good well-rounded

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lineup and and I applaud them of course

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we have a son obviously he's a little

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questionable I don't think I'm easier

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this year is he he's on the list

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oh is he well if you go to UFO

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congress.com and by the way this episode

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we'll be heard on the final day of the

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event I believe or a day or two before

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the event ends and if you look at the

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second row of speakers Jaime Musa and

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O'Brien you know I didn't I haven't been

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quite a while since actually since I was

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announced okay well I stand corrected

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you know again I did see Jaime's

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presentation in November and like I said

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he did have there was a number of clips

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that he had that were just

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jaw-droppingly important I mean very

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very good just real head scratchers that

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passed my smell test in and he had a few

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wonder why did he have them there well

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equivocal and there were obvious obvious

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hoaxes and sprinkled in there too as

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ascertain what they are are obviously

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things but there was a number of Chinese

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lanterns that were obvious to me I think

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flying around and we're gonna be seeing

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more and more footage of objects at

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night well during the day you'll see the

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Amazon drones very soon

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you know delivering all your merchandise

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through Amazon Prime or super drone

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Prime or whatever they do when they get

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those services running well that's just

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hard to believe I mean guys were in the

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21st century aren't we well I'm thinking

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of the scene in the movie The Fifth

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Element when you first see the row upon

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row of hover cars right and such a

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gritty neighborhood I think the special

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effects on that film are probably the

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best because it makes it feel as if

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you're in a real world as wacky as the

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dialogue is as wacky as some of the

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scenes are the actual effects of living

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in a very crowded society several

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seems so realistic why are we talking

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about that the other thing that

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impressed me by the way bites it why are

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you talking about it don't don't lump me

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and on that I'm like scratching my head

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gone where where did that come from

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sounds like the old Tonto joke what do

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you mean we Kemosabe anyway he's just

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going to let me hang in the wind and

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swing there until I rise or fall if I

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had a hover car I'd be rising but let's

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get back to last week's show with mr.

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interest me and impress me is his very

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realistic approach to UFO abductions I

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thought he had a lot of interesting

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information there especially about

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hypnotic regression that we mentioned

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that in the after the para cast episode

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for last week's show so I would refer

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you to that to get more of our insights

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but the point is here that I don't see

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how it's even possible to use hypnotic

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regression to enhance one's memories of

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a UFO abduction incident especially if

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you have no conscious memory it doesn't

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work I don't see how it could well well

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you know again I just there's so much

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work that needs to be done in that arena

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and anyone that's that feels that they

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they should definitely go to someone a

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psychologist and who doesn't have an

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interest in the paranormal in UFOs and

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aliens that has no experience dealing

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it's going to adversely affect the

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quality of your care and if you got to

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get yourself hypnotically request make

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sure that the the regression Isnora

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you know for instance there's just you

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a degree in psychology has it was

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certified as a hypnotherapist he brought

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some very good points that the the human

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mind is incredibly malleable in certain

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relaxed states and and you know I can't

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stress enough how important that is to

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remember especially if you're someone

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describing so you know do the right

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thing you gotta be careful in 15 seconds

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or less Chris no Brian tell us about our

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guest this week

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well dr. John Brandenburg is an amazing

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guy he's a plasma physicist he's he's

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he's worked at some of the National Labs

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he's an incredibly bright guy he's come

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up with some mind-warping revelations

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about a possible nuclear war on Mars

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this is gonna be a fascinating episode

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in the para cast and I I just can't wait

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this is gonna be so much fun yes indeed

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dr. John Brandenburg coming with Jean

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and Chris you're in the para cast first

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game attack of the rock codes and it was

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a critically acclaimed success and now

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there's the coming of the protectors a

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former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at rockets calm that's rockets

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the united states off the gold standard

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and put us into a fiat currency this

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allowed Congress and the Federal Reserve

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to create trillions of dollars out of

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incredible Heights and your hard-earned

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been real money for more than five

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cast with gene and Chris we've got dr.

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John Brandenburg joining us in a moment

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dot the para cast com we have dr. John

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Brandenburg here and his latest book is

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called death on Mars the discovery of a

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planetary nuclear mass

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Herr Doktor Brandenburg thanks for

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coming back on the show so let me look

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at the obvious implications of the title

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here that is a nuclear massacres is

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obviously something that we had Martians

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years ago millions of years ago and they

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destroyed themselves actually that's not

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what it looks like we have first of all

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scientific evidence nuclear data a

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spectroscopic data from the surface of

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what appears have been to enormous

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nuclear weapon explosions and the

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isotopes that give weapons signature

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that's how we know that they were

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weapons and they went off in midair

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you know like Oshima and Nagasaki and

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then if you look where are the locations

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of the the ground zeroes of these two

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enormous explosions they're directly

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downwind of them where the shockwaves

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and the fallout would have been most

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severe is Cydonia immense and another

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place called Galax is chaos which has

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another face on Mars it turns out there

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it looks a lot like the first one

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slightly smaller and all of that is

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shown in the book the most recent

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photographs of these sites confirming

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that this is what looks like a roaded

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archeology it looks however though these

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weapons had to have been basically

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dropped from space and the if you look

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at the new pictures taken by all the

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latest probes of galaxias chaos and

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Cydonia manda this looks like a

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primitive civilization looks like Bronze

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Age

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there's no airport there's no freeways

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there's no nothing that we would

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associate with an advanced civilization

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it looks like ancient Egypt or the

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Mayans or something so you basically

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apparently had an indigenous culture on

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Mars

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earth-like and it developed its own

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intelligence who apparently looked a lot

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like us build things that look like us

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that looked like we build and then for

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some reason somebody came along and

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nuked them with a planet burner two

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planet burners the biggest

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explosion looks like was caused by a

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bomb and thing is the Empire State

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Building slightly move on here John I've

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got to stop you in here and I'm having

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read the book you're making some pretty

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definitive statements here in life think

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we're getting the cart you know speaking

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scientifically it is a course

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hypothetical until we've actually proven

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it that any sort of intelligent life or

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complex life they existed on on Mars but

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let's go ahead and then first of all

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before we get into your you know

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hypotheses about you know possible

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motivations for these events let's look

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at the science first about how we know

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that something catastrophic happened on

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Mars right you know I mean we're talking

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about a planet that we're finding out

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more and more now as each each month

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that goes by basically we're finding out

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more and more but why don't you address

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the layer of radiation and some of the

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science that has been withheld from the

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public because you're not a Martian

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rocket scientists have a different

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stripe and why don't you explain first

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of all give our new listeners who

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perhaps weren't here when you were first

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on a couple years back give them a sense

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of how you got interested in this

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subject to begin with and how you

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stumbled on some really sensational

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information that has not been divulged

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by the by the folks at JPL and and at

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NASA and other places if you kind of

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give us a sense set the stage a little a

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little bit before we go too far into the

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into your theories well the the book I

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wrote is a kind of partly

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autobiographical it's an account of a

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young scientist just out of graduate

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school with a bright shiny PhD arriving

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at another and I went to school at a

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nuclear weapons lab where we were trying

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to harness fusion energy for for the

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benefit of mankind and part of what I

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studied there was laser fusion which is

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trying to minute

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the hydrogen bomb the motivation were

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laser fusion is the hydrogen bombs work

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if we could just make them little tiny

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things as big as a aspirin then we could

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set them off with lasers and harness

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power that way so part of my schooling

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to get my PhD was I was studying laser

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fusion and to do that you need to have a

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basic working knowledge of how nuclear

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weapons work because you're trying to

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basically emulate that success on a

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large scale and you know make it a micro

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sized thing so I arrived at my new place

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of work which is another government lab

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called Sandia Labs in Albuquerque New

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Mexico and I arrived there with you know

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basic knowledge of how nuclear weapons

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worked and everything like that even

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though I had never worked on them

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directly we were in the middle of the

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Cold War this was 1982 and the Reagan

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era had just begun and the Cold War

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became very intense and people at the

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labs interestingly enough had the kind

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of blasé attitude about nuclear war they

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they found nuclear weapons being carted

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by on trucks every day sometimes and had

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Sandia Labs because they're being stored

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in a mountain out in the desert called

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mountains on a mountain so they they

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were kind of used to kind of had this

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idea that as they described it to me

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that the nuclear war broke out they were

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going to get the wife and kids and head

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for the hills and everything was going

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to be fine they felt that like they

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controlled the nuclear fire and so

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therefore wouldn't burn them and what

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happened was when we were there the

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nuclear war scare was getting kind of

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intense remember the day after the movie

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day after came out and and then what

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happened also was because of a dust

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storm on Mars that had covered the

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entire planet of Mars from pole to pole

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back in 1971 during the Mariner 9

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mission Sagan had Sagan and some other

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group a group of scientists have

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analyzed this spectacular dust storm on

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Mars at cover

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the entire planet for six months let's

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explain what happened next in our

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follow-up segment with dr. John

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Brandenburg we're talking about death on

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Mars with Gene and Chris alive on earth

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616
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617
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:09,450
this is actually are you listening to

618
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:12,430
the podcast the gold standard of

619
00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:26,820
Gina and Chris are live on earth dr.

620
00:27:31,169 --> 00:27:28,600
John Brandenburg wrote about death on

621
00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:31,179
Mars we're going back to the 70s this

622
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:34,840
six-month-long dust storm on mars right

623
00:27:41,789 --> 00:27:39,090
let's move on yes and this dust storm

624
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:41,799
really got everyone's head scratching on

625
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:45,340
at JPL and they suddenly realized that

626
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:47,350
such an occurrence could occur on earth

627
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:49,809
in the event of a nuclear war that you

628
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:52,450
could get a smoke and dust in the

629
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:54,880
Earth's atmosphere that would just stay

630
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,950
up there for six months and you would

631
00:28:01,700 --> 00:27:58,240
have a nuclear winter

632
00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:01,710
so the nuclear winter came from Mars

633
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:04,750
studies of Mars what happened at the

634
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,730
nuclear lab where I was working I was

635
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,799
working on directed energy weapons we're

636
00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:10,000
trying to shoot lightning bolts through

637
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:12,160
the sky make them fly straight

638
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:16,090
a wave of depression went through me my

639
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:18,970
co-workers because suddenly they

640
00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:22,840
realized that as my officemate in fact

641
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:25,030
told me he says I used to think I was

642
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,950
gonna if a nuclear war sure I was gonna

643
00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:28,480
drive home get my wife and kids in the

644
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:29,950
car head for the hills

645
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:31,660
now I'm just gonna get up on the roof

646
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:34,360
with a six-pack of beer and watch the

647
00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:42,880
whole thing go Wells and dr. Strangelove

648
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:45,790
trying to unhook the h-bomb in the in

649
00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:50,620
the in the the Bombers Bay ain't nothing

650
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,370
are targeted by God knows how many

651
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:01,600
nuclear weapons Oh Albuquerque was

652
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,610
targeted by at least a hundred nuclear

653
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,919
weapons yeah there was a nuclear weapons

654
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:08,320
storage site out in the desert near my

655
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:11,860
heart just I think in the world yeah in

656
00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:13,210
fact that figured in the ban in which

657
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:16,360
case by if yeah you were at the lab

658
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:18,150
about the same time the Benowitz was

659
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,890
hydraulic by his sign of his company

660
00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:22,480
every day in the war lights under this

661
00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:25,240
under electric separation thunders and

662
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:28,870
so what happened was I had to kind of

663
00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:31,690
had a desire to basically just block it

664
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:33,040
out I didn't even think of

665
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:34,600
nuclear war I just thought well I'll be

666
00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:37,810
dead and that's fine but this depression

667
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:41,860
kind of seeped into me also so a lot of

668
00:29:48,060 --> 00:29:45,160
people became interested in kind of some

669
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:48,070
kind of way to end the Cold War I mean

670
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:50,230
we talked about like at our church where

671
00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:52,000
a lot of the people I worked with went

672
00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:53,680
to church they form what's called a

673
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:55,900
peacemaking group so there was a lot of

674
00:30:01,980 --> 00:29:59,050
really deep concern about nuclear war

675
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:01,990
and you know the danger of nuclear war

676
00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:05,680
it would destroy everything we weren't

677
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:08,560
going to recover from it and so what

678
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:11,590
happened then was I was sitting at home

679
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:15,640
on the day after Christmas in 1983 after

680
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:18,730
just after we had gone through one of

681
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:22,150
these big international crises and there

682
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:24,460
came on the program of this thing about

683
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:26,800
the face on Mars which I've never seen

684
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:31,120
before it completely sandbagged me I was

685
00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:33,670
completely blindsided by normally well

686
00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:35,680
even I said I was very much concentrated

687
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:38,140
on my work and trying to be you know fit

688
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:40,030
in and everything and not be interested

689
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:42,250
in anything outside of work and and

690
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,200
suddenly this show comes on about the

691
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:46,480
face on Mars showing Vista petrol and

692
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:48,610
great mullein arse work and they had two

693
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:51,310
pictures of this thing and I thought

694
00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:53,770
when the show was advertised I expected

695
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:55,660
to be something like Flash Gordon goes

696
00:30:59,030 --> 00:30:57,310
to Mars or something you know or an

697
00:31:01,770 --> 00:30:59,040
eggplant that looks like Richard Nixon

698
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:01,780
something like this and then they showed

699
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:05,440
what looks like a carved face and I just

700
00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:09,070
I was just completely astonished I had

701
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:13,480
never been exposed to that before and so

702
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:16,330
I immediately decided to contact them

703
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:19,270
and what my motivation was is I thought

704
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:21,790
oh my god this looks like a sign of a

705
00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:23,710
dead civilization on Mars that's just

706
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:27,640
the thing to end the Cold War that was

707
00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:29,080
that was like thought at the time I

708
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:30,700
thought we should if we find a dead

709
00:31:34,170 --> 00:31:32,530
civilization on Mars then the Russian

710
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:34,180
the United States will have to cooperate

711
00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:36,130
and go to Mars and so well some people

712
00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:37,420
think that we already did that in the

713
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:40,600
early sixties but but continue so so

714
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:43,330
that was my immediate motivation was

715
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:46,930
that gee this could be a real godsend

716
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:49,960
to help in the Cold War so I became

717
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:53,140
involved in an organization called the

718
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:54,730
independent Mars investigation team

719
00:32:01,470 --> 00:31:57,010
organized by Tech Okla and we

720
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:01,480
investigated the face and we validated

721
00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:03,730
very quickly it was a lot of it was

722
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:05,740
concentrated in Silicon Valley so we got

723
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:07,810
the original data tapes from DiPietro

724
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:10,120
Molinar and verified that you know

725
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:11,830
through NASA that they were the original

726
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,380
tapes and did our own enhancements

727
00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:16,240
DiPietro and Mullen are done such good

728
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:19,870
work and documented it so well that we

729
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,570
were able to quickly validate it it and

730
00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:24,640
you know they'd also found a pyramid

731
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:27,240
within five kilometers of the face and a

732
00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:29,530
lot of people would take exception to

733
00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:32,560
those to those statements but oh well

734
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:34,390
you know they they're they're certainly

735
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:36,940
free to do so but we were a group of

736
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:40,390
scientists and engineers and we just

737
00:32:46,350 --> 00:32:43,180
decided finally at the end by consensus

738
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,360
that this did in fact look like eroded

739
00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:48,880
remains of some dead civilization so we

740
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:50,560
went to a Mars conference and published

741
00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:54,250
it we also in the meantime and I had

742
00:32:58,590 --> 00:32:56,680
kind of taken a lead in this I said that

743
00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:58,600
she looks like there was an old ocean

744
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:02,320
shoreline near Cydonia doctor before we

745
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:05,830
go on yeah Richard Hoagland the things

746
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:08,830
he says are highly highly disputed as

747
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:12,610
you will know get Copeland his brilliant

748
00:33:19,890 --> 00:33:17,200
guy and he has his own evolved

749
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:19,900
hypothesis set of hypotheses about Mars

750
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:21,850
yes they definitely have evolved since

751
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:24,790
nineteen a half of all and in fact he's

752
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:27,880
also in love with him so but what that

753
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:31,270
also they're incredibly in love with

754
00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:35,950
himself he's well well let's just say

755
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,500
that I was happy to work with old dick

756
00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:40,960
Hoagland during this independent Mars

757
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:43,180
investigation team and we went to a

758
00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:45,370
conference and published our results at

759
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:47,740
Boulder Colorado and the effect on the

760
00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:50,830
other Mars scientists was they looked

761
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:53,380
astonished at the amount of work we've

762
00:33:58,410 --> 00:33:56,050
done and one of them came up to me

763
00:34:00,240 --> 00:33:58,420
afterwards and said well we don't know

764
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:00,250
what to think about the pictures but

765
00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:02,050
really likes your Mars ocean your

766
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:05,560
picture of of Earth Mars is more

767
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:07,450
earth-like in the past with listen this

768
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:09,580
is important to note listeners that dr.

769
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:11,290
Brandenburg was the first one to really

770
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:13,210
ID that the northern hemisphere of Mars

771
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:15,310
was pretty much covered by an ocean

772
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:18,129
before that there had been really no

773
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:22,139
talk of this and you your intuition

774
00:34:27,930 --> 00:34:25,210
eventually was proven out absolutely I

775
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:27,940
went to a at the urging of this one

776
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:30,790
scientist named Mars I'm our science

777
00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:32,950
there Hal mazurkas key he was

778
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:35,230
unfortunately passed on I went to a

779
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,530
conference in Washington DC where I then

780
00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:40,720
I actually got a new job in Washington

781
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:45,340
DC on the Star Wars defense thing and I

782
00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:46,750
went to a conference though and

783
00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:48,340
presented the paper on the Mars ocean

784
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:50,620
took on an audience of what probably

785
00:34:56,730 --> 00:34:52,919
about a thousand Mars scientists and

786
00:34:58,410 --> 00:34:56,740
they they really ate it up and what's

787
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,420
funny though is because I've been

788
00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:00,880
involved in the cydonia investigation

789
00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:03,340
none of them would give me credit for it

790
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:06,430
so finally we Cappy dia it's Michael

791
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:10,690
giving me credit people talk about the

792
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:12,520
bars ocean they never mentioned my name

793
00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:16,030
but now Wikipedia has corrected the

794
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:17,740
history books it's always good to get

795
00:35:23,550 --> 00:35:21,490
acknowledgement for your work and so if

796
00:35:26,220 --> 00:35:23,560
you look on Wikipedia about Mars ocean

797
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:26,230
hypothesis i'm reference number one they

798
00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:28,510
were yes but we keep on wikipedia is

799
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:31,120
that that's kind of a peer-to-peer sort

800
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:33,730
of encyclopedia so it's one way to put

801
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:36,130
on it that is not disputed by other

802
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:37,900
people that gets listed whether it's

803
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:40,060
true or not that's not really validation

804
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:40,480
is it

805
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:44,230
oh well it's better than no validation

806
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:47,490
at all which is what I have right now I

807
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:50,890
am I am he who must not be cited on Mars

808
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:54,850
yes that's okay you know credit I can

809
00:35:59,580 --> 00:35:57,790
get from a bank you know it's a it's a

810
00:36:01,740 --> 00:35:59,590
question of the important thing is that

811
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:01,750
people picked up on the Mars ocean idea

812
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:08,560
and it became it's basically been proven

813
00:36:12,690 --> 00:36:11,020
out it's part of the lexicon now it is

814
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:12,700
part of the lexicon the Mars used to

815
00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:14,020
have an ocean and by

816
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:17,340
if Mars had an ocean stuff swam in it

817
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:19,990
you can't the ocean is where life

818
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:22,660
started on earth at Mars ocean by the

819
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:25,990
way lasted most of Mars geologic history

820
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:28,270
you can tell that because it's on the

821
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:31,630
young part of Mars not the old part Mars

822
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:34,210
has a split personality geologically

823
00:36:39,390 --> 00:36:36,490
let's get into what the split

824
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:39,400
personality is whether I have one dr.

825
00:36:58,980 --> 00:36:41,950
John Brandenburg is professor with Jean

826
00:37:00,960 --> 00:36:58,990
and Chris you're in the attack of the

827
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:00,970
rocket has been well received by critics

828
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:03,370
and readers alike it's a thrill a minute

829
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:06,460
story you'll never forget a former US

830
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:08,830
military intelligence officer is haunted

831
00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:10,930
by intense dreams about a beautiful

832
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:13,240
woman pleading for his help after a

833
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:16,390
terrible battle in outer space but the

834
00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:18,490
dreams turn out to be true and thrust

835
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:20,380
him into a telepathic love affair with a

836
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:23,470
woman who's faraway planet is intent on

837
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:25,810
destroying the earth and now the

838
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:28,630
gripping tale continues in but coming of

839
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:31,090
the protectors it's the second book of

840
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:33,700
the Rocko is Trillo G a galaxy spanning

841
00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:35,890
adventure that pits our hapless heroes

842
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:38,920
against powerful fanatical enemies that

843
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:40,870
threaten the lives of freedom loving

844
00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:43,450
beings everywhere attack of the rock

845
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:46,200
aids and the coming of the protectors

846
00:37:51,810 --> 00:37:48,930
classic science fiction at its best

847
00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:51,820
available now for more details visit

848
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:56,380
raah codes calm that's our Ock o IDs

849
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:00,160
calm as the new world order continues

850
00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:02,260
the tightness grip on every facet of our

851
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:05,620
lives we're all asking ourselves how can

852
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:08,590
we maintain our independence the answer

853
00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:10,870
is clear get prepared and you get

854
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:13,150
prepared now now the only question left

855
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:17,290
is where do we begin then my Patriot ooh

856
00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:20,140
help call 802 four seven three zero

857
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:22,120
seven zero to get started with your

858
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:24,730
72-hour emergency food supply for all

859
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,070
ten dollars were even covering the cost

860
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:29,200
of shipping are you willing to rely on

861
00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:31,900
the government and FEMA in the event of

862
00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:34,900
an emergency call 802 seven four three

863
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:37,390
zero seven zero to get started with your

864
00:38:42,270 --> 00:38:39,970
72-hour emergency food supply for only

865
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:42,280
ten dollars you won't be able to find

866
00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:44,410
this deal online and there is a strict

867
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:46,660
limit of four per caller so don't wait

868
00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:49,510
call now 800 two seven four three zero

869
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:52,390
seven zero that's eight hundred two

870
00:38:58,849 --> 00:38:55,570
seven four three zero seven zero call

871
00:39:02,789 --> 00:39:00,930
so you've been listening to pharmacist

872
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:02,799
ben and dr. Wallach for a long time now

873
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:04,450
you're wondering if youngevity really

874
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:06,970
works hi my name is Adam I'm an employee

875
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:08,770
at GCN and I've been using youngevity

876
00:39:12,569 --> 00:39:10,750
products for over two years now call me

877
00:39:15,809 --> 00:39:12,579
today to hear my story at six one two

878
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:15,819
six nine five five nine eight - you too

879
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:17,530
can lose weight experience increased

880
00:39:21,569 --> 00:39:19,420
energy and feel better about yourself in

881
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,579
the future of your family call today six

882
00:39:27,299 --> 00:39:24,400
one two six nine five five nine eight -

883
00:39:30,539 --> 00:39:27,309
that's six one two six nine five five

884
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:30,549
nine eight - we the people grow cotton

885
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:32,650
wheat fabric engraving can bed strips

886
00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:34,210
and fibers to protect from counterfeit

887
00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:36,040
than carding - a private bank having a

888
00:39:38,849 --> 00:39:37,180
lead back at interest

889
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:38,859
forcing taxes to service debt this

890
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:40,569
capitalism what was Jefferson correct

891
00:39:43,799 --> 00:39:42,190
when stating a central bank issuing the

892
00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:43,809
public currency is a greater menace to

893
00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:44,920
the liberties of the people than a

894
00:39:48,059 --> 00:39:46,660
standing army hi Teddy understand I'm

895
00:39:49,859 --> 00:39:48,069
placing a free silver dollar in a book

896
00:39:53,370 --> 00:39:49,869
that explains our monetary system call

897
00:39:56,549 --> 00:39:53,380
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

898
00:39:59,940 --> 00:39:56,559
to understand the system call 866 to 237

899
00:40:02,339 --> 00:39:59,950
that's 800 686 to 237 we live in a

900
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:02,349
complicated society stressful issues are

901
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,089
always popping up have you ever been

902
00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:05,920
treated unfairly by someone have you

903
00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:07,960
ever been overcharged for a repair have

904
00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:09,880
you ever signed a contract or a document

905
00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:12,280
worried about identity theft how many

906
00:40:15,569 --> 00:40:13,630
times have you been in those unique

907
00:40:17,099 --> 00:40:15,579
situations where you just wanted to call

908
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:17,109
an attorney to find out if you're right

909
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:19,210
or wrong or what your legal rights are

910
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:20,980
but every time you think about calling

911
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:22,480
an attorney what do you think about

912
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:24,970
first that's right who do you call and

913
00:40:29,579 --> 00:40:27,400
how much will it cost our friends at

914
00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:29,589
Legal Shield have found a solution with

915
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:32,380
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916
00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:34,780
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917
00:40:39,059 --> 00:40:37,000
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918
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:39,069
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919
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:41,230
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920
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,210
to legal shield on everything from the

921
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:45,280
trivial to the traumatic let legal

922
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:47,410
shield stand up for your rights at LS

923
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:49,690
protection calm that's a less protection

924
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:54,630
calm or call 855 3 4 0 save 8 55 3 4 0

925
00:41:00,500 --> 00:40:57,760
72 83 results will vary from case to

926
00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:04,670
[Music]

927
00:41:08,670 --> 00:41:06,780
this is Micah hang to the graylien

928
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,680
report and you're listening to the para

929
00:41:11,780 --> 00:41:10,720
cast the gold standard of paranormal

930
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:11,790
radio

931
00:41:21,490 --> 00:41:19,119
[Music]

932
00:41:23,950 --> 00:41:21,500
between segments when I raise the issue

933
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:23,960
whether I have a split personality Chris

934
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:28,190
said well you finally admitted it good

935
00:41:33,730 --> 00:41:31,640
for you G have a problem is the first

936
00:41:39,059 --> 00:41:33,740
sign that you can get Wells and that's

937
00:41:43,509 --> 00:41:41,170
others told me that just before he

938
00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:43,519
committed suicide I was too self a case

939
00:41:47,950 --> 00:41:46,190
oh boy this is getting kind of dirty

940
00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:47,960
here we have dr. John Brandenburg the

941
00:41:52,509 --> 00:41:50,630
book is called death on Mars and we're

942
00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:52,519
talking about the oceans and about the

943
00:42:00,250 --> 00:41:56,329
split personality of mortality of Mars

944
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:00,260
tell us more Mars has what's called a

945
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:03,410
dichotomy meaning a split the southern

946
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:06,230
part of Mars is very ancient looking

947
00:42:11,799 --> 00:42:08,569
looks like the lunar Highlands on the on

948
00:42:13,569 --> 00:42:11,809
the moon heavily cratered but in middle

949
00:42:15,759 --> 00:42:13,579
of the craters it's a very science

950
00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:15,769
fiction kind of landscape our River

951
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:17,480
channels leading in and out of the

952
00:42:23,319 --> 00:42:19,250
craters so the craters used to be lakes

953
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:23,329
then they so that the north the southern

954
00:42:28,329 --> 00:42:25,910
part of Mars is average of about a mile

955
00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:28,339
higher than the north part of Mars which

956
00:42:35,049 --> 00:42:31,640
is smooth Plains very few craters fact

957
00:42:37,749 --> 00:42:35,059
more near the North Pole the terrains on

958
00:42:41,769 --> 00:42:37,759
Mars look basically like Earth sand

959
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:41,779
dunes no craters river channels and

960
00:42:48,249 --> 00:42:45,170
that's where the ocean was was in the

961
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:48,259
north of Mars meaning the most youngest

962
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:50,150
looking terrain is where the ocean was

963
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:53,180
that means that for most of ours history

964
00:42:58,839 --> 00:42:56,049
that ocean was there and that defines

965
00:43:00,759 --> 00:42:58,849
having liquid water means the range of

966
00:43:02,769 --> 00:43:00,769
temperatures and atmospheric pressure

967
00:43:05,289 --> 00:43:02,779
that basically defines what you call a

968
00:43:08,049 --> 00:43:05,299
terrestrial environment and it's an

969
00:43:10,269 --> 00:43:08,059
environment where life can thrive either

970
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:10,279
way one of the strong most striking

971
00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:13,119
things about Mars is that is red and

972
00:43:18,249 --> 00:43:15,740
they've looked in the valence Marineris

973
00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:18,259
the rock layers in the wall at the

974
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:20,180
valence Marineris and what they're

975
00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:21,890
seeing with the Rovers they're all

976
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:24,140
bright red that means highly oxidized

977
00:43:28,809 --> 00:43:26,690
iron is there but you look at pictures

978
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:28,819
of Earth from space they're like this a

979
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:31,160
hair of desert it's bright red for the

980
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:32,480
same reason because

981
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:34,670
the oxygen and Earth's atmosphere the

982
00:43:39,790 --> 00:43:36,470
iron of the soil becomes what's called

983
00:43:41,710 --> 00:43:39,800
hematite as opposed to black ferrous

984
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:41,720
iron which is what you know with the

985
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:44,750
salt lava flows out of volcanoes are

986
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:48,680
black like a Hawaiian lava flow salt

987
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:52,880
salt is much harder to but I live just

988
00:43:59,530 --> 00:43:56,000
down the hill from a huge outcropping of

989
00:44:02,109 --> 00:43:59,540
sediment that is slowly you know lifting

990
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:02,119
up into the air and the Colorado Plateau

991
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:04,550
and that's all leading edge is is the

992
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:06,290
beautiful Red Rocks of Sedona which is

993
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:08,900
very similar Oh Sedona yes fact that

994
00:44:14,530 --> 00:44:10,750
Sedona may have been the origin of

995
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:14,540
Cydonia Cydonia is was a mean you want

996
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:18,650
wait wait wait sir yes explain what you

997
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:22,430
just said in more detail but Dona in

998
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:25,850
let's see Arizona it's Arizona you know

999
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:28,970
beautiful area and of course the person

1000
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:32,170
who named everything on Mars was

1001
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:34,850
Percival Lowell who was in Flagstaff

1002
00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:37,490
everybody just up the hill just up the

1003
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:40,340
hill so he was undoubtedly aware of the

1004
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:44,080
beautiful landscapes at Sedona and he

1005
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:46,490
basically was naming everything on Mars

1006
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:48,260
he had the best telescope of the world

1007
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,210
for a while yeah the first of the super

1008
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:53,119
telescopes is still there there and

1009
00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:56,270
still doing useful work so he named all

1010
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:58,250
areas of Mars a name this was an area

1011
00:45:04,690 --> 00:45:01,280
called Cydonia and it comes from an

1012
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:04,700
ancient Greek city on Crete called

1013
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:07,490
Cydonia which apparently was established

1014
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:10,150
by the Phoenicians so it's site up Sidon

1015
00:45:17,890 --> 00:45:15,710
basically or from Sidon you know like

1016
00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:17,900
Tyre and Sidon were the great cities of

1017
00:45:23,859 --> 00:45:20,780
the Phoenicians and then the Greeks took

1018
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:23,869
it over and renamed it Cydonia but the

1019
00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:27,890
similarity to sedona may be not a

1020
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:30,830
coincidence but Percival Lowell isn't

1021
00:45:34,359 --> 00:45:32,210
here to contradict me so I'm going to

1022
00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:34,369
just assert it's true well and his his

1023
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,260
protege clyde tombaugh was the one that

1024
00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:38,000
discovered Pluto of the Lowell

1025
00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:41,600
Observatory Hill yeah which I still

1026
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:43,540
think it's a perfectly fine planet

1027
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:46,370
despite one other but I disagree with

1028
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:48,170
planetary scientists about so many other

1029
00:45:58,690 --> 00:45:55,310
things that a minor matter but I will

1030
00:46:01,600 --> 00:45:58,700
tell you that the idea of giant nuclear

1031
00:46:04,270 --> 00:46:01,610
explosions on Mars you explain explain

1032
00:46:07,210 --> 00:46:04,280
the science how we know this and then

1033
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:07,220
where this okay very developed because

1034
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:09,710
there is a detective story a basis

1035
00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:12,950
exactly the Russians were the first

1036
00:46:18,190 --> 00:46:15,580
people to go to Mars with big gamma ray

1037
00:46:20,770 --> 00:46:18,200
detectors Russians as you know are very

1038
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:20,780
good at nuclear science and so they

1039
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:24,020
orbited probes around Mars in the 70s

1040
00:46:30,970 --> 00:46:26,930
and they detected a lot of radioactive

1041
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:30,980
potassium thorium in uranium on the Mars

1042
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,690
surface and that's because the gantt

1043
00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:34,880
Mars atmosphere is so thin the gamma

1044
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,940
rays go right through it and so they go

1045
00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:40,160
up into orbit and you can pick them up

1046
00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:43,190
from orbit so they basically found that

1047
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:45,080
gee there's a lot of radioactive

1048
00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:48,500
potassium and thorium and uranium on

1049
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:52,060
Mars so it looks the same level as Earth

1050
00:47:00,280 --> 00:46:55,970
then what happened in the 80s is we

1051
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:00,290
identified meteorites from Mars and they

1052
00:47:06,430 --> 00:47:02,510
check the meteorites the meteorites had

1053
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,440
one counts the amount of uranium thorium

1054
00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:08,720
and potassium in them that earth rocks

1055
00:47:17,290 --> 00:47:12,440
do so what it means is these top surface

1056
00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:17,300
of Mars the top foot of Mars is covered

1057
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:20,380
is enriched in uranium thorium and

1058
00:47:25,690 --> 00:47:23,510
radioactive potassium it's a fairly

1059
00:47:27,580 --> 00:47:25,700
uniform layer except around the blast

1060
00:47:31,570 --> 00:47:27,590
areas where would that you buy just as

1061
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:31,580
the blaster is explained that well then

1062
00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:34,820
they did the Americans finally sent a

1063
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:36,920
very precision gamma-ray spectrometer

1064
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:39,170
using new modern technology they were

1065
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:41,810
able to map all of ours and gamma rays

1066
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:44,630
and they found out there was two big

1067
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,910
radioactive hot spots on Mars and one is

1068
00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:52,160
near Cydonia and the other is near a

1069
00:47:58,090 --> 00:47:53,750
place called you in a place called

1070
00:47:59,920 --> 00:47:58,100
utopia and so they could map but then

1071
00:48:03,490 --> 00:47:59,930
this glaring

1072
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:03,500
hot spots too hot spots on Mars in the

1073
00:48:11,170 --> 00:48:05,569
north where all the young where the

1074
00:48:13,210 --> 00:48:11,180
ocean was and so that was that was one

1075
00:48:16,269 --> 00:48:13,220
of the clues that something had happened

1076
00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:16,279
on Mars to make parts of Mars kind of

1077
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:19,880
radioactive and spread debris from

1078
00:48:24,670 --> 00:48:22,010
apparently you can see rays of debris

1079
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:24,680
coming from these hot spots in gamma

1080
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:28,160
rays and reaching all the way around to

1081
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:29,750
the far side of the planet where there's

1082
00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:31,609
a minor hot spot where apparently like a

1083
00:48:36,819 --> 00:48:34,190
shockwave came from this one these

1084
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:36,829
explosions wrapped all the way around

1085
00:48:42,099 --> 00:48:39,049
the planet collided with itself on the

1086
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:42,109
far side leaving another pile of

1087
00:48:48,609 --> 00:48:45,049
radioactive debris and I discuss I show

1088
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:48,619
the maps in the book in color so what

1089
00:48:55,299 --> 00:48:52,180
happened apparently there was some big

1090
00:48:58,450 --> 00:48:55,309
explosion of some radioactive material

1091
00:49:02,980 --> 00:48:58,460
on Mars now how do we factor out a sort

1092
00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:02,990
of natural occurrence well I'll get to

1093
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:05,420
that in just a second of the atmosphere

1094
00:49:11,799 --> 00:49:07,010
as it turns out is loaded with an

1095
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:11,809
isotope called xenon 129 and that

1096
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:15,230
isotope is put out by nuclear reactions

1097
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:20,690
and so Mars is atmosphere is loaded with

1098
00:49:25,539 --> 00:49:22,490
what looks like the residues of an

1099
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,549
enormous nuclear energy release and then

1100
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:27,520
you have this thin layer on the surface

1101
00:49:33,279 --> 00:49:30,650
that the Mars meteorites are apparently

1102
00:49:33,849 --> 00:49:33,289
base for basement rock their bedrock on

1103
00:49:36,279 --> 00:49:33,859
Mars

1104
00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:36,289
not very things right on the surface

1105
00:49:40,299 --> 00:49:38,750
just kind of get blown to the horizon

1106
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:40,309
but they don't escape bar you have to

1107
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:43,010
kind of dig the the part of the crater

1108
00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:45,410
that gets dug out is what throws rocks

1109
00:49:50,529 --> 00:49:48,470
into space they come to earth so then

1110
00:49:52,269 --> 00:49:50,539
the other thing that happened was they

1111
00:49:54,010 --> 00:49:52,279
looked at some of the meteorites from

1112
00:49:58,930 --> 00:49:54,020
Mars and they've been irradiated with

1113
00:50:01,029 --> 00:49:58,940
neutrons so much so that they had to put

1114
00:50:04,029 --> 00:50:01,039
them in a nuclear reactor to duplicate

1115
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:04,039
the amount of nuclear radiation I did

1116
00:50:10,779 --> 00:50:07,520
not know that yes so this I was

1117
00:50:13,390 --> 00:50:10,789
uncovering this in the literature and I

1118
00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:13,400
remembered a comment by a new

1119
00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:17,540
physicist at Sandia and I recounted in

1120
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:18,920
the book where I was waiting in line to

1121
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:20,810
they use a Xerox machine at her library

1122
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:23,570
and I was talking about the strange

1123
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:26,150
isotopes in the Mars atmosphere that the

1124
00:50:33,490 --> 00:50:30,050
xenon 129 was there and it was different

1125
00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:33,500
than any other set of isotopes anywhere

1126
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:36,470
in the solar system you know different

1127
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:40,070
than Earth from the solar wind from

1128
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:42,710
rocks from the moon or meteorites in

1129
00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:46,970
having this excess of xenon 129 and that

1130
00:50:52,510 --> 00:50:50,360
the guy said an excess of what I said

1131
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:52,520
xenon 129 he said can I see that and I

1132
00:50:57,130 --> 00:50:54,170
had the book I was there auctioning the

1133
00:50:59,530 --> 00:50:57,140
article out of it was scientific or a

1134
00:51:02,020 --> 00:50:59,540
scientific article about Mars and he

1135
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:02,030
looked at it and he was kind of a

1136
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,880
happy-go-lucky fellow he he just looked

1137
00:51:09,850 --> 00:51:06,800
like he'd seen a ghost and he said to me

1138
00:51:12,340 --> 00:51:09,860
somebody nuked him well you know what

1139
00:51:13,810 --> 00:51:12,350
before this show gets nuked which we

1140
00:51:16,330 --> 00:51:13,820
can't let happen you see we've been

1141
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around for nine years and I want us to

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have our glorious 10th anniversary in

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1203
00:54:04,000 --> 00:53:59,700
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1205
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00:54:59,860 --> 00:54:56,200
cast comm with dr. John Brandenburg

1223
00:55:02,260 --> 00:54:59,870
about death on Mars and dr. Brandenburg

1224
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:02,270
were looking now at the symptoms the

1225
00:55:06,730 --> 00:55:04,430
things you see on Mars that indicate

1226
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:06,740
there were nuclear explosions in the

1227
00:55:13,390 --> 00:55:10,130
past let's go with was big bada boom as

1228
00:55:15,490 --> 00:55:13,400
they say as they saying the Fifth

1229
00:55:17,260 --> 00:55:15,500
Element that's right I was just watching

1230
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:17,270
it's funny eyes I thought yeah that's

1231
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:23,300
what they're selling big bada boom first

1232
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:27,010
words of English the fella would speak

1233
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:30,830
so basically at the time when he made

1234
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:33,520
this comments it was pretty scary

1235
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:36,680
because we were investigating what

1236
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:37,940
looked like remains of a dead

1237
00:55:43,180 --> 00:55:39,890
civilization on Mars and then this guy

1238
00:55:46,330 --> 00:55:43,190
then were deep in the cold icy depths of

1239
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:46,340
the Cold War and then this guy says it

1240
00:55:52,330 --> 00:55:48,290
looks like Mars was no because of this

1241
00:55:54,370 --> 00:55:52,340
isotope date these events we've been

1242
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:54,380
able to date them and it happened quite

1243
00:56:00,550 --> 00:55:57,610
some time ago yes yes this looks like

1244
00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:00,560
based on the half-life of the isotopes

1245
00:56:04,180 --> 00:56:02,360
involved it looks like this happened

1246
00:56:06,990 --> 00:56:04,190
like half a billion to a quarter billion

1247
00:56:10,750 --> 00:56:07,000
years ago so this was a long time ago

1248
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:10,760
whoever did this is long gone hopefully

1249
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:12,650
cosmic karma has caught up with them

1250
00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:14,700
yeah we're talking

1251
00:56:21,350 --> 00:56:17,580
we didn't even have dinosaurs yet you

1252
00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:21,360
know yet oh we had cockroaches are

1253
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:24,320
notorious for being able to survive

1254
00:56:31,610 --> 00:56:27,900
nuclear radiation as it turns out time

1255
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:31,620
to the to the the Permian oh that's

1256
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:34,350
that's what I was I mentioned in the

1257
00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:37,920
book really odd thing on earth that

1258
00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:40,980
happens kind of during that period was

1259
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:44,190
the great Permian extinction which the

1260
00:56:50,660 --> 00:56:47,250
cockroaches survived and almost nothing

1261
00:56:55,490 --> 00:56:50,670
else survived the earth almost turned

1262
00:57:00,140 --> 00:56:55,500
into a a Mars everything died even the

1263
00:57:03,850 --> 00:57:00,150
oceans died which when the Chicxulub

1264
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:03,860
asteroid hit and wiped out the dinosaurs

1265
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:07,710
the oceans did okay yes they did fine

1266
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:10,500
you know yeah the oceans were sea life

1267
00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:14,490
was really not that disrupted except in

1268
00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:16,800
the immediate area of blast the oceans

1269
00:57:21,770 --> 00:57:19,470
recovered quickly but in the Permian

1270
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:21,780
extinction everything died you know what

1271
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:23,220
songs and oh they're talking a lot of

1272
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,030
trial abides biting the big one

1273
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:29,280
absolutely yeah the the the oceans were

1274
00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:31,410
dominated by these squid-like creatures

1275
00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:34,350
and they all died in fact in the book I

1276
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:37,640
urge people to investigate if in the

1277
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:39,600
sediments associated with a great

1278
00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:42,810
Permian extinction if there any kind of

1279
00:57:46,790 --> 00:57:45,270
nuclear residues that look like they

1280
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:46,800
could have been a result of a nutri

1281
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:48,660
explosion so hopefully some brave

1282
00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:51,660
scientists will bring that data forward

1283
00:57:56,570 --> 00:57:54,180
you got to understand a thing about a

1284
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:56,580
lot of science a lot of scientists don't

1285
00:58:00,850 --> 00:57:58,530
want to make big discoveries they just

1286
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:00,860
kind of want to do their job there

1287
00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:03,930
they're rather is a rather risk it most

1288
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:06,900
scientists are rather risk adverse why

1289
00:58:11,090 --> 00:58:09,690
are they so risk adverse and wimpy well

1290
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,100
it's because of money

1291
00:58:16,610 --> 00:58:13,680
you work hard to get your PhD and then

1292
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:16,620
you then the tenure system you know to

1293
00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:18,630
get tenure at a university you have to

1294
00:58:24,350 --> 00:58:21,420
really keep your mouth shut and your

1295
00:58:27,859 --> 00:58:24,360
head low that faculty meetings for like

1296
00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:27,869
seven years max

1297
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:33,900
people who are very cautious and not

1298
00:58:39,769 --> 00:58:37,079
given to making and risk if you know

1299
00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:39,779
they're risk adverse and more worried

1300
00:58:44,499 --> 00:58:41,940
about their reputation than getting a

1301
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:44,509
Nobel Prize for anything so it's a rare

1302
00:58:51,489 --> 00:58:47,490
scientist who makes a big discovery and

1303
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:51,499
goes charging out there you have to have

1304
00:58:55,970 --> 00:58:53,730
it's a it's a rare thing

1305
00:58:59,390 --> 00:58:55,980
so you basically need two guys in a

1306
00:59:01,489 --> 00:58:59,400
garage or a kitchen building the next

1307
00:59:03,529 --> 00:59:01,499
great personal computer the other thing

1308
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:03,539
I would I ask you in addition to not

1309
00:59:09,739 --> 00:59:07,529
being risk-averse the fact that we don't

1310
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:09,749
have the government research money we

1311
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:13,890
used to have we have to rely on private

1312
00:59:18,890 --> 00:59:16,319
industry and private industry is not

1313
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:18,900
going to put money into research unless

1314
00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:20,609
they can monetize that money they're not

1315
00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:22,740
going to develop a new drug unless they

1316
00:59:24,859 --> 00:59:24,180
can sell it to you for ten thousand

1317
00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:24,869
dollars a month

1318
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:30,299
thank you exactly money yeah in your

1319
00:59:35,059 --> 00:59:32,430
case you are a totally outside of your

1320
00:59:38,140 --> 00:59:35,069
realm of professional expertise so you

1321
00:59:40,460 --> 00:59:38,150
kind of you sort of have a

1322
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:40,470
get-out-of-jail-free card because it's a

1323
00:59:48,049 --> 00:59:43,710
more of a hobby it was when I showed up

1324
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:48,059
to this conference and gave a talk on

1325
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:50,700
the Mars ocean I was like a

1326
00:59:58,279 --> 00:59:54,150
swashbuckling Buccaneer walking into the

1327
01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,289
place because there was a guy who talked

1328
01:00:03,529 --> 01:00:00,420
about lakes on Mars he was obviously

1329
01:00:09,049 --> 01:00:03,539
just shaking in his boots up at the

1330
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:09,059
podium and and I realized I can speak

1331
01:00:14,329 --> 01:00:11,970
freely here because they don't know

1332
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:14,339
where I live

1333
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:17,710
you know I don't you know they they

1334
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:19,930
can't they can't retaliate against me

1335
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:23,410
for making this outrageous idea because

1336
01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:26,770
I don't work at JPL I don't I'm not at a

1337
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:29,470
university and you know trying to get

1338
01:00:36,290 --> 01:00:33,250
tenure something like that I may I was

1339
01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:36,300
at the time at the defense contractor

1340
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:39,430
right and they're all my family ship

1341
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:41,140
doing manly things with other manly men

1342
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:45,420
that's right I was a Beltway Buccaneer

1343
01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:48,670
okay we should talk like a pirate then

1344
01:01:16,049 --> 01:00:52,030
right are are we should don't even ask

1345
01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:16,059
me to joke when we were working in washy

1346
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:17,980
DC and the regular iris build-up was

1347
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that people were the government

1348
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scientists and the people the university

1349
01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:25,059
is called as Dell way bandits and I

1350
01:01:32,099 --> 01:01:28,329
would say I take exception that term its

1351
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:32,109
Beltway Buccaneers you know let's really

1352
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:34,839
frame this in a way without too many

1353
01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:36,880
segways let's go from this story so we

1354
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,030
have evidence all right so enough of the

1355
01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:42,400
pirate talk we are not pirates here on

1356
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:44,559
the power cast and we don't play them on

1357
01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:45,089
TV

1358
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:47,140
so for some kind of nuclear explosion

1359
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:49,690
now let's talk about life on Mars before

1360
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:51,880
we bring it all together so they have

1361
01:01:58,859 --> 01:01:55,930
the oceans right and therefore we have

1362
01:02:02,250 --> 01:01:58,869
the beginnings of life on Mars okay so

1363
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:02,260
how far would life have developed on

1364
01:02:06,089 --> 01:02:04,569
Mars because every time you talk to me

1365
01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:06,099
about the Dead sea-bottoms and

1366
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everything I think of John Carter of

1367
01:02:16,740 --> 01:02:12,309
Mars and Edgar ice ice what exactly in

1368
01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:16,750
fact the oceans may have receded but

1369
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:19,480
that doesn't mean that life wasn't dug

1370
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:22,990
in on Mars I mean the you know the the

1371
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Barsoomian Mars was that the oceans had

1372
01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:27,260
dried up

1373
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:29,300
fact that was one reason the person who

1374
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:31,250
first suggested Mars oceans by the way

1375
01:02:34,930 --> 01:02:33,770
was personal Lowell he suggested that

1376
01:02:37,210 --> 01:02:34,940
look like Mars

1377
01:02:38,770 --> 01:02:37,220
it had oceans and they dried up and so

1378
01:02:41,610 --> 01:02:38,780
this was picked up by Edgar Rice

1379
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:41,620
Burroughs who apparently studied all of

1380
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:43,610
right he also claimed that there was

1381
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canals that were oh yeah well that was a

1382
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that was also the best science available

1383
01:03:01,570 --> 01:02:57,080
at the time and but Mars and Earth

1384
01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:01,580
started out very much the same and on

1385
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earth we know that life began almost as

1386
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soon as there was a liquid ocean as soon

1387
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as you start finding sedimentary rocks

1388
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laid down by water liquid water you find

1389
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apparently of micro fossils from Earth

1390
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life so they pushed that's that's like

1391
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one but one point something billion

1392
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years ago - so we're going back aways

1393
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we'll go back in other ways in a moment

1394
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dr. John Brandenburg is here to tell us

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all about our Mars and no more args

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I was thinking Chris would do something

1498
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like the power oh that's even better

1499
01:08:23,690 --> 01:08:22,950
anyway dr. John Brandenburg is not a

1500
01:08:29,539 --> 01:08:23,700
pirate

1501
01:08:32,749 --> 01:08:29,549
I'm we're dealing with death on Mars

1502
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:32,759
here and we're dealing with life on Mars

1503
01:08:38,510 --> 01:08:35,759
about what you say is that the path of

1504
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:38,520
life on Earth and the path of life on

1505
01:08:44,420 --> 01:08:42,960
Mars followed a simultaneous path that's

1506
01:08:47,959 --> 01:08:44,430
right very much so

1507
01:08:51,220 --> 01:08:47,969
now how far I did the life on Mars go

1508
01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:51,230
before we had this nuclear incident well

1509
01:08:58,249 --> 01:08:54,270
Mars apparently had earth-like

1510
01:09:01,130 --> 01:08:58,259
conditions for about four billion years

1511
01:09:05,959 --> 01:09:01,140
and that's the point when the ocean

1512
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:05,969
started to dry up now Mars apparently

1513
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:10,080
had a greenhouse a planetary greenhouse

1514
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:12,930
like the planet Venus does now and to

1515
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:15,210
some extent the earth has a planetary

1516
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:18,930
greenhouse which were improving upon as

1517
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:21,630
we speak there was a much more robust

1518
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:25,650
atmosphere right so Mars had a much very

1519
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:28,410
much an earth-like atmosphere a heavy

1520
01:09:33,530 --> 01:09:31,410
greenhouse going in allowed liquid water

1521
01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:33,540
and it had an oxygen atmosphere

1522
01:09:39,260 --> 01:09:36,120
apparently that's why Mars is red and

1523
01:09:41,900 --> 01:09:39,270
the oxygen comes from photosynthesis in

1524
01:09:43,579 --> 01:09:41,910
fact one of the most startling things

1525
01:09:47,959 --> 01:09:43,589
about the president atmosphere of Mars

1526
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:47,969
is the fourth most abundant molecule in

1527
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:50,370
the Mars atmosphere today is oxygen and

1528
01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:53,370
they can't explain it by any model they

1529
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,020
have and apparently if there's

1530
01:10:01,280 --> 01:09:57,600
photosynthesis a lot of photosynthesis

1531
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:01,290
on Mars right now and in fact is the you

1532
01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:02,490
know the color of the plan

1533
01:10:08,780 --> 01:10:06,390
probably on Mars they're red if you go

1534
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:08,790
look at seaweed from places where the

1535
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:14,250
light isn't as strong it is red because

1536
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:16,710
red so there still appears to be

1537
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:19,250
something that's helping perpetuate the

1538
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:21,810
scant amount but you know relatively

1539
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:22,890
speaking but there still is a

1540
01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:26,700
significant amount of of oxygen there so

1541
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:28,500
right or even though it's nowhere near

1542
01:10:34,190 --> 01:10:31,470
the there's enough there's enough oxygen

1543
01:10:36,170 --> 01:10:34,200
that if you had a special compressor you

1544
01:10:39,020 --> 01:10:36,180
could you could actually harvest oxygen

1545
01:10:41,660 --> 01:10:39,030
from the earth from Mars atmosphere and

1546
01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:41,670
walk around with a spacesuit as long as

1547
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:43,590
its batteries held out you'd be able to

1548
01:10:48,290 --> 01:10:47,400
have oxygen from the air on Mars right

1549
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:48,300
in the temperature what's the

1550
01:10:53,390 --> 01:10:50,520
temperature variation now and what was

1551
01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:53,400
the temperature range back then when it

1552
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,950
was he I can tell you the temperature on

1553
01:11:04,670 --> 01:10:58,080
Mars that the Equator is warmer than it

1554
01:11:08,270 --> 01:11:04,680
is here in Wisconsin Mars actually gets

1555
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:08,280
to about 70 degrees on the equator on a

1556
01:11:13,730 --> 01:11:11,520
summer afternoon but at night it gets

1557
01:11:15,890 --> 01:11:13,740
very cold it gets down like a hundred

1558
01:11:17,210 --> 01:11:15,900
below so you guys have those space

1559
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:17,220
heaters going full speed

1560
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:19,890
I gotta have space heaters right so do

1561
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:22,140
Martians have space heaters okay but I'm

1562
01:11:28,820 --> 01:11:23,790
trying to get to the clarification here

1563
01:11:31,490 --> 01:11:28,830
which is alright so life begins on Mars

1564
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:31,500
life begins on Earth your speculation

1565
01:11:38,110 --> 01:11:35,130
here is that life on Mars if it was

1566
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:38,120
intelligent life would be similar to us

1567
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:42,320
well it's a similar planet to us

1568
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:43,610
apparently

1569
01:11:50,330 --> 01:11:46,290
Mars and Earth had very similar

1570
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:50,340
conditions up until about a billion

1571
01:11:56,420 --> 01:11:54,030
years ago then things started started

1572
01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:56,430
then some things happen that started

1573
01:12:03,080 --> 01:11:59,130
changing things on Mars so they're less

1574
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:03,090
earth-like but still I think things were

1575
01:12:08,210 --> 01:12:05,910
basically earth-like maybe until half a

1576
01:12:11,170 --> 01:12:08,220
billion years ago that would be four

1577
01:12:14,270 --> 01:12:11,180
billion years of earth-like conditions

1578
01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:14,280
and a lot can happen in four billion

1579
01:12:19,190 --> 01:12:16,620
years you leave

1580
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:19,200
a group of people in a locked room for

1581
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,410
four billion years anything you could

1582
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:24,960
imagine what happened in there and on

1583
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:28,410
earth we had all of the biological

1584
01:12:33,740 --> 01:12:30,990
evolution and part of that evolution was

1585
01:12:36,710 --> 01:12:33,750
driven by the fact that Earth had a very

1586
01:12:39,820 --> 01:12:36,720
heavy greenhouse so that only bacteria

1587
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:39,830
that could survive high temperatures

1588
01:12:46,340 --> 01:12:43,770
survived and so you one of the reasons

1589
01:12:49,340 --> 01:12:46,350
you couldn't have advanced life on earth

1590
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:49,350
is that like if the sea water is hot it

1591
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:51,840
doesn't hold as much oxygen you the

1592
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:56,370
planet has to cool off in other words to

1593
01:13:03,230 --> 01:12:59,880
start having really oxygen based sea

1594
01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:03,240
life that uses oxygen its metabolism and

1595
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,220
this you can't fish if you you're

1596
01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:12,000
basically stuck with bacteria until you

1597
01:13:16,990 --> 01:13:15,150
get a nice oxygen level in a in the

1598
01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:17,000
water and that means low temperature

1599
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:20,040
before you can have even trilobites and

1600
01:13:29,210 --> 01:13:24,590
so my earth had to kind of cool off and

1601
01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:29,220
so Mars kind of had a head start because

1602
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:32,790
it was a cooler planet and and the it

1603
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:34,920
was farther from the Sun so it didn't

1604
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:37,050
have this big temperature barrier to

1605
01:13:42,890 --> 01:13:40,080
overcome and you know these things are

1606
01:13:45,020 --> 01:13:42,900
very complicated you could you could sit

1607
01:13:48,050 --> 01:13:45,030
there and program a computer with a big

1608
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:48,060
planetary simulation and and watch it

1609
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:54,210
run for years to simulate the how Mars

1610
01:14:01,160 --> 01:13:57,360
environment involved but basically until

1611
01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:01,170
about half a billion years ago it was

1612
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,630
like Earth and that means just about

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anything you could imagine evolution

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producing including humanoid beings

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intelligent beings could happen on Mars

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in fact I tell other scientists I said

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we're in a very poor position at this

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time to forbid anything happening on

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Mars that kind of begs the question

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do you think that the space the JPL boys

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and opportunity and some of the probes

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have discovered real evidence of complex

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life and they're keeping it quiet or do

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you think the job I have talked to some

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Mars scientists who are deeply plugged

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into the Mars establishment and they

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have told me that there is a Mars

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cover-up going on that they have found

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stuff that they are not revealing but I

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you know that they didn't show me the

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stuff they just told me that there is a

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Mars cover-up to what extent do they go

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into how much is being covered hot like

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I give you a really one of the people I

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talked to pointed to a novel written by

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a Mars scientist named Charles Hartman

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and it's called Cities of Gold

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and I got it a reddish and it's really

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funny because it's about it this is

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about this guy who was hired by a

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subdivision developer out of Chicago

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he's trying to build something a

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subdivision in Arizona and the guys

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hiring he's an archaeologist out of work

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so they hire him he's just out of school

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you know until the hiring he's supposed

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to write colorful brochures talking

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this supposed to be a subdivision let's

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the podcast the gold standard of

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paranormal radio he's trying dr. John

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:15,989
Brandenburg joins us the book is death

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on Mars from Adventures unlimited press

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that place okay but I'm basically

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talking about a book written by a very

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well known Mars scientist and he will

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probably deny any connection to Mars but

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he wrote this interesting novel about a

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guy who finds a Spanish helmet at the

1779
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site of this place called the Red House

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01:21:49,759 --> 01:21:45,929
which is a old collapsed Pueblo built by

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the Indians and he finds this historic

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artifact there and he reports it to the

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person who's building the subdivision

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the guy says have you told anyone else

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about this and the guy says well no and

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it says thanks Bill just go home and

1787
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take the rest of the day off and then

1788
01:22:23,060 --> 01:22:17,579
what happens is they send hitmen from

1789
01:22:25,879 --> 01:22:23,070
Chicago because if they find a real

1790
01:22:27,950 --> 01:22:25,889
historic artifact the subdivision will

1791
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be declared as our archaeological site

1792
01:22:34,879 --> 01:22:30,869
and they can't build it so there's

1793
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millions of dollars hundreds of millions

1794
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:36,960
of dollars worth of the subdivision

1795
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money is going to go down the drain if

1796
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they if this artifact is real and so the

1797
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subdivision developed the developers

1798
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cruise out of Chicago anyways this

1799
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response is just higher some had been to

1800
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try and kill this guy that sounds like

1801
01:23:01,040 --> 01:22:56,059
any place where something is discovered

1802
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:01,050
the the scenario in the novel which is

1803
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set on earth is that at the Red House

1804
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:10,620
he finds a intelligent artifact this so

1805
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his this throws everything into doubt

1806
01:23:19,820 --> 01:23:17,580
and he has to flee for his life

1807
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:19,830
fortunately the secretary the developer

1808
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secretary was having an affair with

1809
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warns him that these guys that Tony Tony

1810
01:23:35,780 --> 01:23:29,250
lacunae from Chicago is coming looking

1811
01:23:40,130 --> 01:23:35,790
for him and so anyway so he manages to

1812
01:23:42,380 --> 01:23:40,140
escape and then gives the artifact to

1813
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the museum where it gets publicized so

1814
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the subdivision is declared as a

1815
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archaeological site they can't build a

1816
01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:49,290
subdivision the subject vision guy goes

1817
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out of business at least and that the

1818
01:24:01,460 --> 01:23:56,220
book ends with him meeting the secretary

1819
01:24:04,570 --> 01:24:01,470
in Spain where they're on the lam and so

1820
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so it was the idea of finding an

1821
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artifact in a place that disrupts

1822
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:14,400
everyone's economic plans and trended

1823
01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:16,290
like I said the guy the guy who told me

1824
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:19,710
this said that this was this was written

1825
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:22,170
by this one Mars guy is kind of a

1826
01:24:26,660 --> 01:24:25,530
allegory of the situation on Mars all

1827
01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:26,670
right well we're trying to get this

1828
01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:30,300
straight about Mars okay so if there are

1829
01:24:36,190 --> 01:24:32,550
humanoid creatures on Mars and they are

1830
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:36,200
intelligent or their work or there were

1831
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:39,270
which is more to the point how far did

1832
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they get before the catastrophe hit I

1833
01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:42,960
think that's what we're trying to

1834
01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:45,870
speculate is there any way no no not

1835
01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:48,540
until you sand astronauts up there we

1836
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:51,480
you know you until you get keep people

1837
01:24:56,570 --> 01:24:54,210
on the on the grey any archaeologists

1838
01:24:58,930 --> 01:24:56,580
will tell you you have to dig to find

1839
01:25:02,060 --> 01:24:58,940
out the truth in an archaeological site

1840
01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:02,070
that's what they call them digs you have

1841
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:03,780
to get there in there with shovels very

1842
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:06,210
hard work you shovel through all of this

1843
01:25:13,060 --> 01:25:09,570
debris you finally find clay tablets or

1844
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:13,070
artifacts or pots or metal weapons

1845
01:25:18,590 --> 01:25:16,560
something that then establishes them the

1846
01:25:20,900 --> 01:25:18,600
technological level

1847
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:20,910
in fact we could drive if you landed a

1848
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:23,760
rover at Cydonia mens and drove it

1849
01:25:28,340 --> 01:25:25,710
around for a year you've probably seen

1850
01:25:36,410 --> 01:25:28,350
nothing that you would recognize as

1851
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:36,420
artificial you see rubble and just some

1852
01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:38,370
hills that you know you recognize from

1853
01:25:42,410 --> 01:25:40,710
space or the face from our face on Mars

1854
01:25:44,180 --> 01:25:42,420
or the pyramid but they look wouldn't

1855
01:25:46,910 --> 01:25:44,190
look very impressive at all if you drove

1856
01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:46,920
around with a rover in close range

1857
01:25:51,170 --> 01:25:48,630
all you'd see was a bunch of jumbled

1858
01:25:53,450 --> 01:25:51,180
rock so now you see Cleese speaking near

1859
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:53,460
the Martin okay so none of the Mars

1860
01:25:58,820 --> 01:25:56,880
probes are capable were able to find

1861
01:26:00,220 --> 01:25:58,830
anything now is there something that

1862
01:26:03,230 --> 01:26:00,230
could be done they got really lucky

1863
01:26:05,210 --> 01:26:03,240
unless they got very lucky okay is there

1864
01:26:07,130 --> 01:26:05,220
something that could be done in their

1865
01:26:09,860 --> 01:26:07,140
design or the programming that could be

1866
01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:09,870
maybe redone from Earth to make it more

1867
01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:12,060
possible for them to find anything like

1868
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,060
this this relic of a past civilization I

1869
01:26:20,780 --> 01:26:18,480
have advocated you just should just send

1870
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,790
people just people do these things much

1871
01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:23,040
better than any machine by the time

1872
01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:24,450
you're done programming one machine to

1873
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:26,550
do that you could you've spent as much

1874
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:29,070
money as just sending people well we

1875
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:30,900
sure don't need seem to know that do we

1876
01:26:40,210 --> 01:26:35,690
no no well Mars this big business

1877
01:26:44,620 --> 01:26:40,220
this country has uncle Sammy has spent

1878
01:26:50,930 --> 01:26:44,630
probably 10 billion dollars on Mars

1879
01:26:53,900 --> 01:26:50,940
that's that's a lot of money well I tell

1880
01:26:56,630 --> 01:26:53,910
in fact it and believe it or not until

1881
01:27:00,710 --> 01:26:56,640
Cydonia and I point this out in the book

1882
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:00,720
until Cydonia and the ocean on Mars that

1883
01:27:06,580 --> 01:27:03,090
came from a Cydonia investigation Mars

1884
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:06,590
was being written off as a scientific

1885
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:09,120
Lee interesting planet they were moving

1886
01:27:17,690 --> 01:27:12,780
out to talked about Europa or Titan you

1887
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:17,700
know the moons of Jupiter and and Saturn

1888
01:27:23,290 --> 01:27:21,120
Mars in fact the Mars Observer was

1889
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:23,300
supposed to be the last probe to Mars

1890
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,690
and and other planets in the solar

1891
01:27:31,799 --> 01:27:30,000
system are like I like mercury they sent

1892
01:27:34,919 --> 01:27:31,809
one probe you know back in the

1893
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:34,929
these it looked like the moon so they

1894
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,329
said well that's not very interesting so

1895
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,760
we finally sent a new probe and map we

1896
01:27:44,729 --> 01:27:41,679
had didn't even have complete maps of

1897
01:27:47,339 --> 01:27:44,739
mercury until about last year when they

1898
01:27:48,989 --> 01:27:47,349
sent a recent probe and it's it's not a

1899
01:27:52,079 --> 01:27:48,999
very interesting place it's just looks

1900
01:27:53,969 --> 01:27:52,089
like the moon and if some people had

1901
01:27:56,549 --> 01:27:53,979
kind of written off Mars the same way

1902
01:27:58,589 --> 01:27:56,559
when the Mars the life experiments

1903
01:28:06,409 --> 01:27:58,599
failed there's to find clear evidence of

1904
01:28:08,909 --> 01:28:06,419
life but now Mars is big business it's a

1905
01:28:12,529 --> 01:28:08,919
billion-dollar multi-billion dollar

1906
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:12,539
enterprise Mars equals money

1907
01:28:17,989 --> 01:28:15,550
all right so Mars equals money so

1908
01:28:21,449 --> 01:28:17,999
therefore they shouldn't wait till 2035

1909
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,459
2000 years from now to send all humans

1910
01:28:27,989 --> 01:28:23,199
to the Mars you need to do it right now

1911
01:28:32,189 --> 01:28:27,999
but I'm with Elon Musk let's just go not

1912
01:28:33,809 --> 01:28:32,199
horsing around and land at Cydonia well

1913
01:28:36,589 --> 01:28:33,819
this is the whole big issue here I don't

1914
01:28:42,809 --> 01:28:36,599
we figured out how to get to the moon in

1915
01:28:45,359 --> 01:28:42,819
1969 yep fine with technology that is

1916
01:28:47,429 --> 01:28:45,369
far far far more primitive than what we

1917
01:28:50,189 --> 01:28:47,439
have now but we still can't figure out

1918
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:50,199
how to get to Mars so is it mostly the

1919
01:28:54,809 --> 01:28:52,510
will or rather than the money in the

1920
01:28:56,489 --> 01:28:54,819
technology I mean in recent years

1921
01:28:59,790 --> 01:28:56,499
forgetting about which political party

1922
01:29:03,089 --> 01:28:59,800
you favor in recent years it appears to

1923
01:29:06,329 --> 01:29:03,099
me the plans that have been brought

1924
01:29:09,149 --> 01:29:06,339
forth to continue space exploration have

1925
01:29:11,309 --> 01:29:09,159
been basically pathetic no we just need

1926
01:29:13,559 --> 01:29:11,319
if we had Saturn fives the moon rocket

1927
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:13,569
we'd get to mars pretty easy it's a

1928
01:29:18,779 --> 01:29:14,530
question of money

1929
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:18,789
you know Mars costs more and the

1930
01:29:23,250 --> 01:29:21,010
astronauts didn't even have a toilet on

1931
01:29:26,389 --> 01:29:23,260
the way to the moon they wore diapers

1932
01:29:28,979 --> 01:29:26,399
that's how pampers got invented they

1933
01:29:32,099 --> 01:29:28,989
there was a five day mission and they

1934
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:32,109
just wore diapers all the way and you

1935
01:29:37,129 --> 01:29:33,760
can't do that on the way to Mars it

1936
01:29:40,949 --> 01:29:37,139
takes like six months to get to Mars and

1937
01:29:42,799 --> 01:29:40,959
so you have to you have to send really

1938
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:42,809
several modules for the space station

1939
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:45,310
and as a ship to law

1940
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:48,550
and anyway by the way the most dangerous

1941
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:51,580
part of a human Mars mission is coming

1942
01:29:57,150 --> 01:29:55,210
back it's not getting to Mars landing on

1943
01:29:59,190 --> 01:29:57,160
Mars since it has an atmosphere you can

1944
01:30:01,740 --> 01:29:59,200
use it the heat shield a big parachute

1945
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:01,750
and you can basically land on Mars

1946
01:30:06,630 --> 01:30:04,690
pretty easy and one more thing if you

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I was placing an order online the site

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Chris sounds like he went to Mars

2073
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without the septic tank well one thing

2074
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you mentioned in your book John is a

2075
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good way to approach Mars is the base

2076
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your initial flights to Phobos alright

2077
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:28,730
so one of the moons of Mars because the

2078
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staging area yeah

2079
01:35:34,750 --> 01:35:31,639
yeah then that makes a lot of sense to

2080
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me it's a it's a you know it's a it's a

2081
01:35:42,790 --> 01:35:37,820
ready-made Space Station you just dig a

2082
01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:42,800
few feet into the oil and some space

2083
01:35:50,410 --> 01:35:47,150
station modules on Phobos and Cumberland

2084
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was uh Phobos dirt and there's been

2085
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shielded from radiation and they

2086
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complained that Mars doesn't have a

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magnetic field that means it doesn't

2088
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have a Van Allen belt either so it's

2089
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actually safer to be in orbit around

2090
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Mars there's around earth terms of

2091
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:13,429
radiation and so we use Phobos wheel and

2092
01:36:17,260 --> 01:36:15,440
in fact you just awkward Phobos you

2093
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don't actually land on it you establish

2094
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:19,909
a base camp like if you're climbing

2095
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Mount Everest

2096
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you know you establish a big base camp

2097
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and then stage the sense out of the base

2098
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camp which is like can the base camp and

2099
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be like halfway up the mountain and so

2100
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you stage everything from follows and

2101
01:36:41,649 --> 01:36:38,239
the first landing group like is only

2102
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:41,659
three people and you just say you're

2103
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going to stay there on Mars for a couple

2104
01:36:46,300 --> 01:36:43,969
years

2105
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:46,310
we're not until we get all the bugs

2106
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:49,520
worked out for coming back you know just

2107
01:36:53,979 --> 01:36:52,159
say no it's like an expedition

2108
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Antarctica people stay there for several

2109
01:37:00,640 --> 01:36:58,820
years and so then because the most

2110
01:37:02,979 --> 01:37:00,650
dangerous part of a Mars mission is

2111
01:37:04,510 --> 01:37:02,989
coming off is launching from Mars

2112
01:37:08,649 --> 01:37:04,520
surface and trying to come home that

2113
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:08,659
involves a big rocket Mars is a big big

2114
01:37:13,540 --> 01:37:11,449
planet and it's got a lot of gravity

2115
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:13,550
it's nothing like them you know it's

2116
01:37:20,140 --> 01:37:17,840
have about 40% of Earth's gravity so it

2117
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takes a big rocket to get off of Mars

2118
01:37:23,169 --> 01:37:21,499
back up and do or but

2119
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and then docked with a mothership and

2120
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come home so the best thing to do is

2121
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:29,570
then get into Mars orbit dock with a

2122
01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:30,409
ship from

2123
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:34,249
Phobos and so do all the heavy lifting

2124
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at Phobos and then the the Mars base

2125
01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:42,409
it's Iconia on the surface you just

2126
01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:47,119
stayed out of Phobos and for

2127
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psychological reasons also it's very

2128
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important that the people inside onea

2129
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the Landers the landing team you know

2130
01:38:02,020 --> 01:37:57,229
they look up and they see Phobos go over

2131
01:38:03,879 --> 01:38:02,030
twice a day and make an orbit there's

2132
01:38:07,989 --> 01:38:03,889
about three times a day it's comforting

2133
01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:07,999
well it is because you like Robert Louis

2134
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Stevenson the thing you know the the

2135
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noted author the thing that killed him

2136
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in his you know he was a vigorous old

2137
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man and he visited Pompeii that they had

2138
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just dug up and he saw all of these

2139
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bodies that were buried by the volcanic

2140
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eruption there and he wrote last thing

2141
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he wrote in his diary city of death the

2142
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shock of seeing all of this death it's

2143
01:38:42,910 --> 01:38:40,729
Pompeii killed him before we died not

2144
01:38:45,009 --> 01:38:42,920
hearing the answer I'm not really

2145
01:38:47,620 --> 01:38:45,019
getting a clarification on this back to

2146
01:38:50,140 --> 01:38:47,630
the civilization on Mars yeah

2147
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:50,150
far did they get before the nuclear

2148
01:38:56,379 --> 01:38:52,639
blast happen and that's before we find

2149
01:38:59,859 --> 01:38:56,389
out who might have done it right we

2150
01:39:04,120 --> 01:38:59,869
don't know how far they got the just

2151
01:39:08,799 --> 01:39:04,130
based on I kind of got feeling looking

2152
01:39:11,529 --> 01:39:08,809
at the ruins it looks like it was Bronze

2153
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:11,539
Age like ancient Egypt building the

2154
01:39:17,500 --> 01:39:14,800
pyramids or like the Mayans the Aztecs

2155
01:39:21,129 --> 01:39:17,510
it does not look like it was an advanced

2156
01:39:23,259 --> 01:39:21,139
civilization now we won't know until we

2157
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:23,269
have people there digging through the

2158
01:39:28,770 --> 01:39:26,719
ruins it is entirely possible that they

2159
01:39:32,469 --> 01:39:28,780
reached a high level of technology that

2160
01:39:34,580 --> 01:39:32,479
maybe they did this to themselves but it

2161
01:39:37,290 --> 01:39:34,590
doesn't look like it

2162
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:37,300
you know I I have to just give my best

2163
01:39:43,470 --> 01:39:40,210
judgment as a scientist that's my best

2164
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:43,480
judgment until I get more information so

2165
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:47,110
that's one thing that makes this look so

2166
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:50,350
tragic and pathetic is that it looks

2167
01:39:56,370 --> 01:39:52,570
like it was a primitive civilization and

2168
01:39:57,810 --> 01:39:56,380
somebody came along and dropped enormous

2169
01:40:02,160 --> 01:39:57,820
hydrogen you know

2170
01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:02,170
Kenner Death Star kind of devices from

2171
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:03,070
outer space

2172
01:40:08,190 --> 01:40:06,490
they had them blow up in midair I mean

2173
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:08,200
there would be no point in building a

2174
01:40:15,180 --> 01:40:12,930
giant planet killer of your own and then

2175
01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:15,190
you know if you wanted to destroy the

2176
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:16,720
planet all I have to do is set it off on

2177
01:40:22,110 --> 01:40:17,770
the ground

2178
01:40:24,330 --> 01:40:22,120
you wouldn't loft it into space or set

2179
01:40:26,730 --> 01:40:24,340
it off in midair but apparently they

2180
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:26,740
whoever did this drop these things out

2181
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:30,490
of space and like Hiroshima and Nagasaki

2182
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:34,570
they set off the warheads above the

2183
01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:35,050
ground

2184
01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:37,840
we found what is called Trinitite which

2185
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:42,760
is atomic melt glass at both sites I'm

2186
01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:45,280
in fact I just got a paper accepted to a

2187
01:40:50,430 --> 01:40:47,230
major scientific conference just

2188
01:40:52,350 --> 01:40:50,440
discussing the explosions okay so if

2189
01:40:55,260 --> 01:40:52,360
they didn't do it had to have been done

2190
01:40:58,860 --> 01:40:55,270
from outsiders now tires being an

2191
01:41:01,680 --> 01:40:58,870
advanced extraterrestrial race that flaw

2192
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:01,690
reasons unknown went to Mars and shot

2193
01:41:09,890 --> 01:41:06,250
off their load right well you know if

2194
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:09,900
you look in human history advanced

2195
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:12,130
civilizations have wiped out primitive

2196
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:15,970
civilizations many times in Earth's

2197
01:41:21,570 --> 01:41:17,830
history just know you have a bad habit

2198
01:41:24,290 --> 01:41:21,580
of doing that yeah I mean it's you know

2199
01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:24,300
the human being human beings have a

2200
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:26,920
murderous streak running through them

2201
01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:31,360
and that history just just you know like

2202
01:41:35,250 --> 01:41:33,460
the Tasmanians you know where people

2203
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:35,260
lived in Tasmania they were completely

2204
01:41:48,610 --> 01:41:40,290
wiped out by the Australian and European

2205
01:41:57,380 --> 01:41:52,010
there are there is a fellow named

2206
01:41:59,950 --> 01:41:57,390
Harrison who actually wrote that this

2207
01:42:04,939 --> 01:41:59,960
comes to what's called Fermi's paradox

2208
01:42:07,700 --> 01:42:04,949
let's say we're finding this on Mars if

2209
01:42:10,250 --> 01:42:07,710
this is what I found on Mars now we look

2210
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:10,260
out to the rest of the universe and it

2211
01:42:15,979 --> 01:42:13,410
is silent it's not like you know I

2212
01:42:20,540 --> 01:42:15,989
delegate from the Galactic United

2213
01:42:23,110 --> 01:42:20,550
Nations has arrived and given us forms

2214
01:42:26,900 --> 01:42:23,120
to fill out to apply for membership

2215
01:42:31,550 --> 01:42:26,910
nothing like that is happens at least is

2216
01:42:33,950 --> 01:42:31,560
acknowledged publicly well of course we

2217
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:33,960
have to depend on the government to

2218
01:42:40,459 --> 01:42:38,610
reveal it but regardless of that of

2219
01:42:41,959 --> 01:42:40,469
course they will they have a law that

2220
01:42:44,689 --> 01:42:41,969
that's how everything ended in Close

2221
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:44,699
Encounters of the Third Kind they gotta

2222
01:42:52,250 --> 01:42:49,370
have told everybody right okay so

2223
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,260
regardless of that regardless of that

2224
01:43:00,380 --> 01:42:54,719
with your point a radio telescope around

2225
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:00,390
in the Stars you hear nothing you know

2226
01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:01,890
you can't you there's no government

2227
01:43:08,170 --> 01:43:05,699
cover-up on radio telescope observations

2228
01:43:10,729 --> 01:43:08,180
as intelligent signals for space you

2229
01:43:13,820 --> 01:43:10,739
this was the first person who noticed

2230
01:43:18,020 --> 01:43:13,830
this was Enrico Fermi the great

2231
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:18,030
physicist he said well if the if the

2232
01:43:21,140 --> 01:43:19,920
human race is typical of intelligent

2233
01:43:24,530 --> 01:43:21,150
life in the universe and this is

2234
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:24,540
somebody who just fought World War two

2235
01:43:29,689 --> 01:43:26,910
invented the atomic bomb was working on

2236
01:43:31,090 --> 01:43:29,699
the hydrogen bomb and he said the human

2237
01:43:34,130 --> 01:43:31,100
race is very noisy

2238
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:34,140
it likes to was brought it likes to turn

2239
01:43:40,010 --> 01:43:37,170
plants stereos really loud sends out a

2240
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:40,020
lot of radio broadcasts soap operas

2241
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:42,930
political propaganda everything

2242
01:43:52,430 --> 01:43:49,040
imaginable the commercials and he said

2243
01:43:53,330 --> 01:43:52,440
the human race is very young compared to

2244
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:53,340
the rest of the universe the universe

2245
01:43:57,110 --> 01:43:55,530
should be full of people like us and

2246
01:44:00,050 --> 01:43:57,120
they should be making a lot of radio

2247
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:00,060
noise but with silence

2248
01:44:05,330 --> 01:44:03,600
what does that mean he put it very

2249
01:44:08,090 --> 01:44:05,340
emphatically says where the hell are

2250
01:44:10,010 --> 01:44:08,100
they where are the people we would

2251
01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:10,020
expect to be out there in the Stars

2252
01:44:20,630 --> 01:44:15,480
right now sending us accidentally their

2253
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:20,640
radio broadcasts you know Matt bill

2254
01:44:27,260 --> 01:44:23,520
buzzer skis on used cars in Alpha

2255
01:44:31,070 --> 01:44:27,270
Centauri for instance and he said it is

2256
01:44:35,660 --> 01:44:31,080
a paradox that life the nature of life

2257
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:35,670
is to spread to all places it can and to

2258
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:38,850
be very noisy and yet the universe is

2259
01:44:42,130 --> 01:44:41,130
silent as a ghost town it's silent as a

2260
01:44:45,290 --> 01:44:42,140
cemetery

2261
01:44:47,150 --> 01:44:45,300
that's called Fermi's paradox and one of

2262
01:44:48,860 --> 01:44:47,160
the people who address this was a guy

2263
01:44:51,500 --> 01:44:48,870
named Edward Harrison I discussed this

2264
01:44:53,810 --> 01:44:51,510
in the book he said perhaps there are

2265
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:53,820
forces in the universe that are

2266
01:44:59,060 --> 01:44:56,340
intelligent that run around squelching

2267
01:45:02,120 --> 01:44:59,070
young noisy civilizations such as

2268
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:02,130
ourselves so they won't become a

2269
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:05,250
nuisance later well the other question

2270
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:06,810
being here is how do you become that

2271
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:10,110
race to decide how to get rid of the

2272
01:45:14,090 --> 01:45:11,970
nuisances and they got rid of the

2273
01:45:15,740 --> 01:45:14,100
Martians why haven't they gotten rid of

2274
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:15,750
us that's an interesting question to ask

2275
01:45:21,770 --> 01:45:18,800
I want your answer on the other side dr.

2276
01:45:33,770 --> 01:45:21,780
Brandenburg is with us with Jean and

2277
01:45:38,750 --> 01:45:33,780
Christian because we are communications

2278
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:38,760
network attention listeners survival

2279
01:45:42,620 --> 01:45:40,650
life comm is giving away free ever

2280
01:45:44,540 --> 01:45:42,630
strike permanent matches for a limited

2281
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:44,550
time only these matches are waterproof

2282
01:45:48,980 --> 01:45:46,320
and will light if any weather condition

2283
01:45:51,290 --> 01:45:48,990
rain snow or sleet it will still throw a

2284
01:45:54,860 --> 01:45:51,300
spark it's built in Ferro rod strikes at

2285
01:45:57,950 --> 01:45:54,870
3,000 degrees and it is good for 15,000

2286
01:46:00,200 --> 01:45:57,960
strike normally $15 today it's free get

2287
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:00,210
yours it free waterproof match calm

2288
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,490
again that's free waterproof match calm

2289
01:46:06,350 --> 01:46:03,840
Murray supplies are limited

2290
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:06,360
visit free waterproof match calm today

2291
01:46:10,700 --> 01:46:08,610
we the people grow cotton wheat fabric

2292
01:46:11,730 --> 01:46:10,710
engraving embeds strips and fibers to

2293
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:11,740
protect from counterfeit

2294
01:46:15,570 --> 01:46:13,510
then karting to a private bank having it

2295
01:46:17,220 --> 01:46:15,580
led back at interest forcing taxes to

2296
01:46:18,990 --> 01:46:17,230
service debt this capitalism was

2297
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:19,000
Jefferson correct when stating a central

2298
01:46:21,870 --> 01:46:20,530
bank issuing the public currency is a

2299
01:46:23,670 --> 01:46:21,880
greater menace to the liberties of the

2300
01:46:25,050 --> 01:46:23,680
people than a standing army hi Ted

2301
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:25,060
Anderson I'm placing a free silver

2302
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dollar in a book that explains our

2303
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:28,720
monetary system call for your copy 800

2304
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:31,570
686 to 237 it's time to understand the

2305
01:46:40,890 --> 01:46:36,070
system call 866 to 237 that's 800 686 to

2306
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:40,900
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2307
01:46:44,340 --> 01:46:42,610
heart racing and sweat dripping from

2308
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:44,350
your forehead you finally muster the

2309
01:46:50,250 --> 01:46:45,970
courage to dial the number to call in to

2310
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:50,260
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2311
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2312
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:52,180
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2313
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:53,890
from surprised you got through you

2314
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:56,170
squeak out Jason from Minnesota please

2315
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:56,530
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2316
01:47:00,660 --> 01:46:58,330
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2320
01:47:10,350 --> 01:47:08,710
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2321
01:47:12,690 --> 01:47:10,360
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2322
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2323
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2324
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:15,550
[Applause]

2325
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:24,050
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2326
01:47:28,630 --> 01:47:26,480
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2329
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2330
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2331
01:47:49,060 --> 01:47:45,330
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2332
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:49,070
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01:48:01,510 --> 01:47:53,410
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2334
01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:01,520
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2354
01:49:00,400 --> 01:48:57,920
we are talking here John about the

2355
01:49:02,020 --> 01:49:00,410
civilization that wants to put us down

2356
01:49:05,410 --> 01:49:02,030
they put down the Martians of nuclear

2357
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:05,420
weapons why not those Earthlings those

2358
01:49:12,220 --> 01:49:10,400
nasty pests well they've got a big to-do

2359
01:49:14,890 --> 01:49:12,230
list we're on the list but they just

2360
01:49:18,970 --> 01:49:14,900
haven't gotten to it yet I guess in the

2361
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:18,980
book I say that why wait around for them

2362
01:49:24,740 --> 01:49:20,960
to show up

2363
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:24,750
why don't we go to Mars find out exactly

2364
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:27,110
what the hell happened up there and

2365
01:49:33,290 --> 01:49:29,850
that's the best way to ensure it doesn't

2366
01:49:35,870 --> 01:49:33,300
have a guys go can you save that if an

2367
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,880
advanced civilization comes here there

2368
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:37,440
are a thousand years ahead of us and

2369
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:39,840
they wanted nuke us how do we stop them

2370
01:49:47,300 --> 01:49:44,370
well the you know and all we're doing is

2371
01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:47,310
a scientific reconstruction and by the

2372
01:49:52,370 --> 01:49:49,590
way I when I'm hoping cuz the scientists

2373
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:52,380
at Livermore in Los Alamos where I phase

2374
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:54,770
to work a little more our heart rate

2375
01:50:03,140 --> 01:49:59,760
models the explosions already using

2376
01:50:09,110 --> 01:50:03,150
their big computer codes good luck to

2377
01:50:12,290 --> 01:50:09,120
you guys but anyway well the the bombs

2378
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:12,300
were not that not that complicated I

2379
01:50:16,490 --> 01:50:14,850
mean we could have built one we could

2380
01:50:19,010 --> 01:50:16,500
have built those things that doesn't

2381
01:50:24,830 --> 01:50:19,020
mean that this thing of a thousand years

2382
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:24,840
ahead of us you know a lot of cultures

2383
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:26,970
they reach a certain level technology

2384
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:28,050
and they decide that they don't need

2385
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:28,530
anymore

2386
01:50:33,740 --> 01:50:30,930
they just stop they stop developing new

2387
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:33,750
technology well you know this kind of

2388
01:50:38,690 --> 01:50:35,250
leads us to one of the questions that

2389
01:50:41,390 --> 01:50:38,700
has been posted at our question bank at

2390
01:50:45,260 --> 01:50:41,400
forum dr. Peric ascom this comes from

2391
01:50:48,140 --> 01:50:45,270
fast Walker yeah he's been a member of

2392
01:50:50,930 --> 01:50:48,150
the forums for about a year yes he's a

2393
01:50:53,500 --> 01:50:50,940
piece of big fan ears and he has a

2394
01:51:04,490 --> 01:50:53,510
question right what's your question

2395
01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:04,500
fast given that there is a civilization

2396
01:51:08,540 --> 01:51:06,420
advanced enough to travel vast distances

2397
01:51:10,630 --> 01:51:08,550
and have the ability to nuke another

2398
01:51:13,340 --> 01:51:10,640
planetary civilization out of existence

2399
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:13,350
why would they destroy the biosphere of

2400
01:51:18,010 --> 01:51:15,810
the planet when an advanced civilization

2401
01:51:20,180 --> 01:51:18,020
could merely use some sort of

2402
01:51:22,750 --> 01:51:20,190
nanotechnology and introduce a virus or

2403
01:51:25,370 --> 01:51:22,760
some other disease or use a neutron bomb

2404
01:51:27,470 --> 01:51:25,380
that is genetically tailored to wipe out

2405
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:27,480
the offending intelligent race why take

2406
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:32,490
out the whole biosphere well remember in

2407
01:51:36,290 --> 01:51:34,050
Star Wars

2408
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:36,300
there are two movies that actually had

2409
01:51:40,339 --> 01:51:38,130
this sort of scenario and the one is the

2410
01:51:42,939 --> 01:51:40,349
famous movie Dark Star which I urge

2411
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:42,949
everybody to go watch it's the

2412
01:51:49,700 --> 01:51:46,130
predecessor of both Star Wars and alien

2413
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:49,710
but just cause it's the first movie by

2414
01:51:54,649 --> 01:51:52,800
John Carpenter by the way Dark Star and

2415
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:54,659
it features them dropping these big

2416
01:52:00,169 --> 01:51:56,730
planet burgers on planets that they

2417
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:00,179
deemed to be unstable it's just a bunch

2418
01:52:05,060 --> 01:52:01,650
of roving technicians they're not

2419
01:52:06,919 --> 01:52:05,070
thinking deeply about anything and then

2420
01:52:09,919 --> 01:52:06,929
the other example is of course the Death

2421
01:52:11,569 --> 01:52:09,929
Star in Star Wars which was complete

2422
01:52:16,060 --> 01:52:11,579
overkill I mean it blew up the entire

2423
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:16,070
planet and you know sort of like

2424
01:52:22,879 --> 01:52:18,690
governor Tarkin why did you destroy Mars

2425
01:52:24,979 --> 01:52:22,889
and he said because Dantooine would be

2426
01:52:27,979 --> 01:52:24,989
far too remote to be a good example they

2427
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:27,989
wanted to scare people that's people do

2428
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,480
things like that when the Romans

2429
01:52:34,220 --> 01:52:32,639
destroyed Carthage they planted this so

2430
01:52:36,609 --> 01:52:34,230
they sowed the ground with salt so

2431
01:52:43,250 --> 01:52:36,619
nobody could get rebuilt right right

2432
01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:43,260
yeah when you suddenly you introduced

2433
01:52:51,950 --> 01:52:47,790
intelligence into a scenario the

2434
01:52:56,089 --> 01:52:51,960
possibilities just explode the number of

2435
01:52:59,149 --> 01:52:56,099
possible scenarios and when I when I

2436
01:53:01,250 --> 01:52:59,159
first discovered that my original

2437
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:01,260
hypothesis by the way this was natural

2438
01:53:05,959 --> 01:53:03,570
nuclear reactors that went unstable and

2439
01:53:07,780 --> 01:53:05,969
exploded on Mars yes you expressed that

2440
01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:07,790
in the previous appearance on the show

2441
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:12,360
right and that was because that was the

2442
01:53:17,899 --> 01:53:14,610
simplest explanation that natural

2443
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:17,909
nuclear reactors happened on earth I was

2444
01:53:22,580 --> 01:53:20,010
only presupposing a much larger one on

2445
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:22,590
Mars that was well received by the way

2446
01:53:30,010 --> 01:53:25,260
by the scientific community the only

2447
01:53:32,899 --> 01:53:30,020
problem was it didn't fit the evidence

2448
01:53:34,430 --> 01:53:32,909
it there was no big crater it would have

2449
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:34,440
had that would have left a big crater

2450
01:53:41,209 --> 01:53:37,170
there's no crater whatever happened blew

2451
01:53:46,330 --> 01:53:41,219
up in midair and the neutron the xenon

2452
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:46,340
129 is from fast Neutron reactions not

2453
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:47,950
moderated

2454
01:53:52,260 --> 01:53:50,050
one's is from plutonium production in

2455
01:53:56,970 --> 01:53:52,270
nuclear testing is what creates the

2456
01:54:02,340 --> 01:53:56,980
xenon 129 on earth so you just answer

2457
01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:02,350
fast Walker's question I don't know why

2458
01:54:09,390 --> 01:54:04,030
they did what they did

2459
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:09,400
it is a spec it looks very evil well at

2460
01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:13,290
least as rude yeah it looks very evil

2461
01:54:20,060 --> 01:54:16,630
you know why do people mutilate cattle

2462
01:54:22,830 --> 01:54:20,070
and leave them for their owners to find

2463
01:54:25,020 --> 01:54:22,840
well in a lot of countries people do

2464
01:54:28,490 --> 01:54:25,030
that people do that to other people to

2465
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:28,500
scare them they want to scare people

2466
01:54:35,690 --> 01:54:31,810
- somebody may wanted to make an example

2467
01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:35,700
out of Mars to scare other people

2468
01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:40,390
imagine a universe that is where

2469
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:43,420
intelligent life is the the greatest

2470
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:45,610
danger to intelligent life and the

2471
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:48,550
universe is other intelligent life and

2472
01:54:53,730 --> 01:54:50,500
that's that brings to mind Stephen

2473
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:53,740
Hawking's observation that anything out

2474
01:54:58,200 --> 01:54:56,410
there that would encounter our noisy

2475
01:55:04,820 --> 01:54:58,210
planet would probably be more otters

2476
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:04,830
going from Planet raping and pillaging I

2477
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:09,730
Stephen Hawking is is that hard a pirate

2478
01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:12,250
like myself and maybe he watched the

2479
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:14,440
movie Independence Day too often because

2480
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:16,450
that's the theme of Independence Day

2481
01:55:22,290 --> 01:55:19,170
that we have this race of

2482
01:55:24,750 --> 01:55:22,300
extraterrestrial okis who will pillage a

2483
01:55:28,850 --> 01:55:24,760
planet then they'll move on to the next

2484
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:28,860
one that's right and you can imagine

2485
01:55:38,220 --> 01:55:32,560
well I mean that was the Mongols the

2486
01:55:40,620 --> 01:55:38,230
Mongolian tribes were nomads and they

2487
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:40,630
had no use for cities in urban life they

2488
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:44,320
destroyed cities Afghanistan used to be

2489
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:46,450
a very rich fertile area and then the

2490
01:55:53,150 --> 01:55:47,650
Mongols came through and just killed

2491
01:55:56,690 --> 01:55:53,160
everybody made pyramids and heads and

2492
01:55:59,550 --> 01:55:56,700
they actually destroyed Baghdad -

2493
01:56:00,630 --> 01:55:59,560
they've come and killed everyone in the

2494
01:56:02,370 --> 01:56:00,640
city yeah

2495
01:56:04,020 --> 01:56:02,380
the city wouldn't wouldn't surrender and

2496
01:56:07,110 --> 01:56:04,030
the walls were too high they just fling

2497
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:07,120
diseased bodies exactly a

2498
01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:11,590
bacteriological warfare exactly they

2499
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:16,630
were they were pretty pretty bad

2500
01:56:21,780 --> 01:56:20,410
customers and they they won a lot of

2501
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:21,790
their battles through sheer terror

2502
01:56:25,650 --> 01:56:24,250
people were afraid to fight them it

2503
01:56:33,660 --> 01:56:25,660
would just surrender when they showed up

2504
01:56:36,330 --> 01:56:33,670
and so unfortunately there are many

2505
01:56:39,930 --> 01:56:36,340
examples on earth of people doing things

2506
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:39,940
like this and when I when I first

2507
01:56:45,390 --> 01:56:42,430
encountered when I found out that the

2508
01:56:49,170 --> 01:56:45,400
natural nuclear reactor scenario would

2509
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:49,180
not work it was you know as Sherlock

2510
01:56:53,370 --> 01:56:51,610
Holmes said this I've got a perfect

2511
01:56:57,150 --> 01:56:53,380
explanation for what happened except the

2512
01:57:01,200 --> 01:56:57,160
dog didn't bark and because the dog

2513
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:01,210
didn't bark this is a murder case and

2514
01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:05,170
not a you know that's by natural causes

2515
01:57:10,770 --> 01:57:07,780
or something you know so when the

2516
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:10,780
civilization on Mars was destroyed the

2517
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:13,840
question remains who done it why they

2518
01:57:17,370 --> 01:57:14,530
did it

2519
01:57:19,860 --> 01:57:17,380
why haven't they done it here well we

2520
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:19,870
still here before we go into that yeah

2521
01:57:26,490 --> 01:57:22,330
dr. John Brandenburg his book is called

2522
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death on Mars we have gene and Chris

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2550
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podcast.com dr. John Brandenburg is here

2629
02:02:08,410 --> 02:02:04,099
we're talking about the book death on

2630
02:02:12,489 --> 02:02:08,420
Mars about ET doing in the civilization

2631
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on Mars a Bronze Age civilization

2632
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evidently trying to look over the

2633
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evidence from afar that this might have

2634
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happened and still wonder why it hasn't

2635
02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:23,959
happened here yet what do you think

2636
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:25,760
though about UFOs we're talking about

2637
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:29,690
civilizations from worlds if we have

2638
02:02:35,259 --> 02:02:32,690
UFOs here are they not the race that may

2639
02:02:37,390 --> 02:02:35,269
have done in the Martians first of all

2640
02:02:41,469 --> 02:02:37,400
let me tell you about my attitude about

2641
02:02:43,239 --> 02:02:41,479
the whole UFO field I was quite

2642
02:02:47,049 --> 02:02:43,249
fascinated with it I went to a lot of

2643
02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:47,059
conferences and gave some papers in fact

2644
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:48,650
my original papers are on Mars because

2645
02:02:55,089 --> 02:02:51,530
it's related you know found humanoids on

2646
02:03:00,009 --> 02:02:55,099
Mars people report humanoid in these UFO

2647
02:03:04,089 --> 02:03:00,019
encounters and but I decided based on

2648
02:03:08,140 --> 02:03:04,099
some advice from my second wife and also

2649
02:03:12,029 --> 02:03:08,150
the fact that as a scientist I need

2650
02:03:17,109 --> 02:03:12,039
reliable data to try and proceed I

2651
02:03:19,540 --> 02:03:17,119
decided to treat the whole UFO issue to

2652
02:03:21,489 --> 02:03:19,550
interpret it as science in a science

2653
02:03:24,279 --> 02:03:21,499
fiction scenario so I wrote a novel

2654
02:03:28,029 --> 02:03:24,289
called Morningstar paths they collapse

2655
02:03:32,500 --> 02:03:28,039
of the UFO cover-up and this is the

2656
02:03:36,219 --> 02:03:32,510
weird thing I chose the locale of about

2657
02:03:40,270 --> 02:03:36,229
half the action in the novel to be the

2658
02:03:41,890 --> 02:03:40,280
San Luis Valley in Colorado not knowing

2659
02:03:43,839 --> 02:03:41,900
at the time that that was the Center for

2660
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:43,849
cattle mutilations I just looked on a

2661
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:45,650
map and decided to be a great place to

2662
02:03:50,410 --> 02:03:49,010
put an alien base secret alien base but

2663
02:03:50,979 --> 02:03:50,420
I was certainly aware of the cattle

2664
02:03:54,549 --> 02:03:50,989
mutilation

2665
02:03:57,370 --> 02:03:54,559
and the abductions I talked to several

2666
02:04:01,839 --> 02:03:57,380
abductees about what they had gone

2667
02:04:05,049 --> 02:04:01,849
through and then wrote the novel and I

2668
02:04:11,410 --> 02:04:05,059
talked to some retired military people

2669
02:04:13,390 --> 02:04:11,420
who knew something about this and that

2670
02:04:16,660 --> 02:04:13,400
all went to entity would novel a science

2671
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:16,670
fiction novel so in a sense it's not a

2672
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:19,130
high pot I'm not trying to assign I'm

2673
02:04:25,569 --> 02:04:20,570
just trying to make a hypothesis about

2674
02:04:28,779 --> 02:04:25,579
it I'm just trying to fun with it I'm

2675
02:04:33,540 --> 02:04:28,789
going to have I'm going to try and posit

2676
02:04:36,250 --> 02:04:33,550
a scenario that makes sense and as

2677
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:36,260
somebody defines the difference between

2678
02:04:44,229 --> 02:04:41,210
fiction and and real life is the fiction

2679
02:04:46,689 --> 02:04:44,239
has to make sense what is real life

2680
02:04:49,149 --> 02:04:46,699
doesn't so it's sounding like that you

2681
02:04:52,299 --> 02:04:49,159
don't really take the field that's

2682
02:04:56,020 --> 02:04:52,309
seriously oh no I actually take it

2683
02:04:59,200 --> 02:04:56,030
seriously based on some discussions of

2684
02:05:02,680 --> 02:04:59,210
some veterans from the military but I

2685
02:05:05,620 --> 02:05:02,690
decided not since they weren't willing

2686
02:05:07,299 --> 02:05:05,630
to testify about what they found or had

2687
02:05:08,890 --> 02:05:07,309
experienced well why don't you share

2688
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:08,900
some of these revelations with our

2689
02:05:13,660 --> 02:05:11,360
listeners well and this is Anna science

2690
02:05:15,839 --> 02:05:13,670
fiction novel is that imagine something

2691
02:05:18,489 --> 02:05:15,849
like Close Encounters of the Third Kind

2692
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:18,499
the movie actually happened in the

2693
02:05:24,549 --> 02:05:20,090
middle of Cold War and the government

2694
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:24,559
had had decided that it had to find out

2695
02:05:31,270 --> 02:05:29,119
what the aliens wanted the greys and it

2696
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:31,280
had you know gone from broadcast you're

2697
02:05:36,839 --> 02:05:33,679
talking with them on radio finally to

2698
02:05:40,779 --> 02:05:36,849
having a meeting with them and and then

2699
02:05:43,930 --> 02:05:40,789
allowing them to set up a base on earth

2700
02:05:45,939 --> 02:05:43,940
and have a scientific exchange and

2701
02:05:48,250 --> 02:05:45,949
return for them investigating the earth

2702
02:05:49,870 --> 02:05:48,260
now you in the fictional realm you or is

2703
02:05:53,259 --> 02:05:49,880
this revelations from your military

2704
02:05:56,620 --> 02:05:53,269
sources oh let's just say this is

2705
02:06:03,699 --> 02:05:56,630
science fiction you know what I mean

2706
02:06:06,429 --> 02:06:03,709
wink-wink nudge-nudge my nose here okay

2707
02:06:08,859 --> 02:06:06,439
in a fictional sentence wing pending

2708
02:06:15,459 --> 02:06:08,869
thank wink and not in a way where nose

2709
02:06:19,770 --> 02:06:15,469
gets larger right right so the program

2710
02:06:25,979 --> 02:06:19,780
of scientific exchange with the aliens

2711
02:06:31,929 --> 02:06:25,989
in the novel has not gone very well

2712
02:06:33,969 --> 02:06:31,939
so one thing the the government allowed

2713
02:06:37,179 --> 02:06:33,979
the aliens to occupy this kind of

2714
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:37,189
Devil's Tower kind of like Mesa in in

2715
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:40,400
San Luis Valley in a near a mythical

2716
02:06:45,219 --> 02:06:43,010
town called Morningstar there was a town

2717
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:45,229
called Morningstar in Virginia where I

2718
02:06:48,580 --> 02:06:46,610
was living when I wrote it

2719
02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:48,590
we're started to write it so that's

2720
02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:52,030
where I took the name beautiful name and

2721
02:07:01,089 --> 02:06:58,010
let's just say that as the hero says to

2722
02:07:04,989 --> 02:07:01,099
the heroine she asked him well is the

2723
02:07:08,859 --> 02:07:04,999
program gone into a snafu State and he

2724
02:07:11,500 --> 02:07:08,869
says the program passed out of snafu ten

2725
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:11,510
years ago he said is now far beyond

2726
02:07:19,359 --> 02:07:16,400
fubar if you earlier were those military

2727
02:07:21,879 --> 02:07:19,369
actor yes yes although we can't fully

2728
02:07:26,379 --> 02:07:21,889
quit we can't fully explore them on the

2729
02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:26,389
situation public program means a

2730
02:07:32,620 --> 02:07:30,320
situation normal all fouled up and then

2731
02:07:35,410 --> 02:07:32,630
fubar yes

2732
02:07:38,379 --> 02:07:35,420
it means fouled up beyond all

2733
02:07:43,839 --> 02:07:38,389
recognition yes

2734
02:07:46,449 --> 02:07:43,849
and so in the novel this has gotten

2735
02:07:49,859 --> 02:07:46,459
completely out of hand

2736
02:07:52,479 --> 02:07:49,869
the secret council that's supposed to be

2737
02:07:53,949 --> 02:07:52,489
evaluating the aliens and it's so secret

2738
02:07:56,859 --> 02:07:53,959
not even the president knows what

2739
02:07:59,140 --> 02:07:56,869
they're doing and they regard the

2740
02:08:02,199 --> 02:07:59,150
president's as a transitory and dubious

2741
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:02,209
figures who pass in and out of history

2742
02:08:08,439 --> 02:08:06,650
and they continue and they not so

2743
02:08:11,410 --> 02:08:08,449
they're not subject to anybody anymore

2744
02:08:13,089 --> 02:08:11,420
they they they consider themselves the

2745
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:13,099
most important people on earth actually

2746
02:08:17,630 --> 02:08:15,110
because they're negotiating with the

2747
02:08:21,380 --> 02:08:17,640
most powerful entities on earth

2748
02:08:23,510 --> 02:08:21,390
and so they what usually happens in

2749
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:23,520
Washington DC when they when a very

2750
02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:26,000
secret program goes completely haywire

2751
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:29,280
like this is there's a leak to the press

2752
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:33,690
and so it's leaked to these two of

2753
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:37,530
course beautiful news anchors on this

2754
02:08:42,890 --> 02:08:41,610
like CNN or Fox News Network and they

2755
02:08:45,050 --> 02:08:42,900
want to be taken seriously as

2756
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:45,060
journalists so they start testing this

2757
02:08:52,580 --> 02:08:50,400
thing and they bring it down they manage

2758
02:08:56,510 --> 02:08:52,590
to bring down the UFO cover-up in about

2759
02:08:58,460 --> 02:08:56,520
six months yeah in a perfect world NASA

2760
02:09:02,180 --> 02:08:58,470
does having a wet dream if he's here in

2761
02:09:07,390 --> 02:09:02,190
this episode with that that's Stephen

2762
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:11,300
he needs some people many people have

2763
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told me that the book and praised the

2764
02:09:20,090 --> 02:09:16,260
book because it was the the two heroines

2765
02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:20,100
are so interesting you see what's gonna

2766
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happen on the internet now they're gonna

2767
02:09:26,210 --> 02:09:23,580
say gene Steinberg of the power cast

2768
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claims that Steve Bassett has a wet

2769
02:09:33,950 --> 02:09:28,230
dream because they don't understand the

2770
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:33,960
distinction of being my novel all right

2771
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but seriously speaking leather is a

2772
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beautiful one in the novel the the

2773
02:09:51,980 --> 02:09:49,250
aliens the greys are really bad news and

2774
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:51,990
the only one of the real breaks and the

2775
02:09:57,050 --> 02:09:55,290
thing is the it turns out the I won't

2776
02:10:00,260 --> 02:09:57,060
give away the book but this is a very

2777
02:10:02,510 --> 02:10:00,270
this is the way the book begins is the

2778
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:02,520
Russians our friends the Russians

2779
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discover an alien base in Siberia oh boy

2780
02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:08,820
let's get away from the Russians and xd9

2781
02:10:13,660 --> 02:10:10,560
to our next segment with dr. John

2782
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Brandenburg and Jean and Chris and

2783
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[Laughter]

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does not use any database you get full

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control of all your files want to view

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the images of a folder drag it into

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graphic converter and a powerful browser

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opens up to show your image files you

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could use it for slideshows you could

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use it to import images from digital

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cameras or from scanners need to do some

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image editing you can do that too and

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graphic converter also print catalogs

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local channels - at just $19.99 what are

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the Cable Guy cut costs and get more one

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to be healthier from gluten-free and

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sleep the body needs but how much have

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five or head to alcove isn't calm the

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turkey freeze-dried ham and the no big

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casserole unit february sale listen if

2861
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you trust the freeze-dried guy as

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thousands have for their emergency food

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supply since nineteen seventy don't wait

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to hear how great this deal is because

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it's unlimited supply call eight six six

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four oh four three six six three and as

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for our new turkey and ham unit normal

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retail price 350 nine ninety four sale

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price 250 194 you save a hundred and

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eight dollars and it's chock full of

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high quality great tasting freeze-dried

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diced turkey and ham from mountain house

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the gold standard long-term storage

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products or get the freeze dry guys know

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2876
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at normal retail price of two fifteen

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ninety four sale price one seventy two

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seventy five you say 43:19 but supplies

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are limited and we always pay shipping

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don't miss the freeze dry guys february

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or visit freeze-dry guy.com hi this is

2889
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:43,160
Nate Pope's you're listening to the

2890
02:14:50,140 --> 02:14:47,690
parrot Rock I don't know what to say we

2891
02:14:52,090 --> 02:14:50,150
have two segments left okay sorry I

2892
02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:52,100
could handle the craziness of the

2893
02:14:57,370 --> 02:14:55,610
encounter between ufology and the real

2894
02:15:02,170 --> 02:14:57,380
world that I know was in a science

2895
02:15:07,110 --> 02:15:02,180
fiction scenario but in the end the UFO

2896
02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:07,120
cover-up dies a violent horrible death I

2897
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:09,400
can promise you that

2898
02:15:16,270 --> 02:15:13,250
so I take it here that in the real world

2899
02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:16,280
such as it is right and or our imitation

2900
02:15:24,700 --> 02:15:19,660
of reality you do not accept UFOs as

2901
02:15:26,050 --> 02:15:24,710
possible visitors from elsewhere oh oh I

2902
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:26,060
don't believe we're alone in the

2903
02:15:31,210 --> 02:15:28,250
universe and I don't believe we're the

2904
02:15:33,010 --> 02:15:31,220
first people to develop space travel so

2905
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:33,020
do you believe we're important enough

2906
02:15:39,580 --> 02:15:36,370
for them to come here and and do

2907
02:15:42,370 --> 02:15:39,590
experiments and leave our butts or for

2908
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:42,380
instance you know what was it Roswell

2909
02:15:49,150 --> 02:15:46,850
New Mexico in 1947 right all of the

2910
02:15:52,390 --> 02:15:49,160
nuclear weapons on earth were stored at

2911
02:15:54,610 --> 02:15:52,400
Roswell Army Air Base in 1940 was the

2912
02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:54,620
only use the only place on the planet

2913
02:15:59,680 --> 02:15:56,690
where we had it was only at that five

2914
02:16:01,540 --> 02:15:59,690
Nagasaki style atomic bombs right at

2915
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:01,550
five Oh first I heard nuclear weapons

2916
02:16:07,150 --> 02:16:04,010
stockpile of the of the entire planet

2917
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:07,160
the elite bomber veera pilots and crews

2918
02:16:12,430 --> 02:16:10,880
of the soon soon-to-be Air Force and I

2919
02:16:14,530 --> 02:16:12,440
think at the time the Army Air Force

2920
02:16:16,990 --> 02:16:14,540
that's right was the Army Air Force and

2921
02:16:18,430 --> 02:16:17,000
I met these guys I was at a meeting

2922
02:16:20,650 --> 02:16:18,440
where they brought together all the

2923
02:16:22,420 --> 02:16:20,660
Roswell sir you know people who were

2924
02:16:26,650 --> 02:16:22,430
still around back in the night of the

2925
02:16:31,420 --> 02:16:26,660
90s and met these guys so I I believe

2926
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:31,430
that the accounts from Roswell are true

2927
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:35,690
and so they're that kind of answers what

2928
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:38,450
do I think about ufology in general

2929
02:16:45,310 --> 02:16:43,450
however how can I put this delicately

2930
02:16:46,700 --> 02:16:45,320
let's just say I was much more

2931
02:16:50,930 --> 02:16:46,710
comfortable writing about

2932
02:16:55,100 --> 02:16:50,940
science fiction then I was trying to

2933
02:16:58,640 --> 02:16:55,110
write a real book analyzing it as fact

2934
02:17:01,910 --> 02:16:58,650
and you can just speculate as to why I

2935
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:01,920
would choose science fiction we really

2936
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:04,290
don't have time to dwell on this essence

2937
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:06,690
keep moving on let's just say the same

2938
02:17:11,330 --> 02:17:09,210
kind of factors forces in the universe

2939
02:17:13,459 --> 02:17:11,340
that would mutilate somebody's cow and

2940
02:17:16,990 --> 02:17:13,469
leave it there for them to find in the

2941
02:17:19,129 --> 02:17:17,000
morning would be the same sort of

2942
02:17:22,219 --> 02:17:19,139
intelligent beings that would blow up

2943
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:22,229
Mars find a Bronze Age civilization

2944
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:26,690
there and blow it up just as an example

2945
02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:29,969
so you know when our reaction must be we

2946
02:17:35,810 --> 02:17:32,969
must go up to Mars find out exactly what

2947
02:17:38,660 --> 02:17:35,820
happened did the people on Mars know who

2948
02:17:41,780 --> 02:17:38,670
did this to them does they have prior

2949
02:17:44,089 --> 02:17:41,790
encounters with them did somebody show

2950
02:17:45,950 --> 02:17:44,099
up in a big spaceship one day and say to

2951
02:17:48,350 --> 02:17:45,960
the Martians this is a real nice planet

2952
02:17:54,230 --> 02:17:48,360
you have here can we have some bases

2953
02:17:56,930 --> 02:17:54,240
here and maybe the Martians did not give

2954
02:18:00,830 --> 02:17:56,940
the answer required yeah it sounds like

2955
02:18:04,580 --> 02:18:00,840
they did not have the right ritualized

2956
02:18:06,379 --> 02:18:04,590
response right and so we have to go up

2957
02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:06,389
to Mars we have to become a spacefaring

2958
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:09,570
we have to become like Star Trek we have

2959
02:18:14,930 --> 02:18:12,410
to become like the Imperial Starfleet in

2960
02:18:16,910 --> 02:18:14,940
Star Wars we have to build that don't

2961
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:16,920
the sun's gonna go supernova and the

2962
02:18:21,530 --> 02:18:19,650
planet will be fried to a crisp or an

2963
02:18:21,980 --> 02:18:21,540
asteroid is gonna hit and wipe us all

2964
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:21,990
out

2965
02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:25,110
well how what the reason we can deal

2966
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:27,530
with an asteroid now an asteroid

2967
02:18:32,780 --> 02:18:30,960
threatens the earth and you know one of

2968
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:32,790
those threatening was this also has to

2969
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:35,370
be big and I discussed this in a novel

2970
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:37,410
called Sepulveda it's the prequel to

2971
02:18:45,740 --> 02:18:43,920
warning straw pass we can blow it up we

2972
02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:45,750
we have plenty of nuclear weapons and

2973
02:18:51,259 --> 02:18:48,719
plenty of rockets to deliver them we are

2974
02:18:55,490 --> 02:18:51,269
if this had happen if we had discovered

2975
02:18:57,140 --> 02:18:55,500
an asteroid in the 1940s or 30s on a

2976
02:18:59,660 --> 02:18:57,150
collision course earth there have been

2977
02:19:00,379 --> 02:18:59,670
nothing we could do about it we didn't

2978
02:19:03,479 --> 02:19:00,389
know

2979
02:19:04,530 --> 02:19:03,489
Martini's goodbye that's right that's

2980
02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:04,540
what we've done

2981
02:19:09,900 --> 02:19:08,050
yeah and we could have had hands are

2982
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:09,910
cough launches rocket and see if he

2983
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:14,080
could kind of deflect it but all I'm

2984
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:16,210
saying is we have to become spacefaring

2985
02:19:20,820 --> 02:19:18,160
now we've sent out all these radio

2986
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:20,830
signals in you know in this cemetery

2987
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:23,410
this ghost town that is the universe

2988
02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:27,010
well we've now found the remains of a

2989
02:19:32,099 --> 02:19:30,040
murder victim apparently we have a

2990
02:19:33,839 --> 02:19:32,109
little campsite in this ghost town we're

2991
02:19:36,089 --> 02:19:33,849
going out exploring why don't we find

2992
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:36,099
somebody who apparently died of multiple

2993
02:19:46,169 --> 02:19:41,679
stab wounds and so we have been playing

2994
02:19:48,990 --> 02:19:46,179
our stereos really loud here we can't

2995
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call back those radio signals now all we

2996
02:19:53,130 --> 02:19:51,340
can do now is the only spent hard about

2997
02:19:55,260 --> 02:19:53,140
10 light-years or something at this

2998
02:19:58,139 --> 02:19:55,270
point Oh 50 light years since my

2999
02:20:00,090 --> 02:19:58,149
lighters a hundred light years so and

3000
02:20:01,889 --> 02:20:00,100
remember when you set off a nuclear

3001
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weapon in the atmosphere it puts out a

3002
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:04,239
particular bunch of radio waves and

3003
02:20:08,610 --> 02:20:06,850
electromagnetic pulse way that you can

3004
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:08,620
pick that up too so they know we'll have

3005
02:20:14,940 --> 02:20:12,130
nuclear weapons and so we have to get up

3006
02:20:17,370 --> 02:20:14,950
there we have to become spacefaring we

3007
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have to become like we have to have the

3008
02:20:24,269 --> 02:20:19,090
Starship Enterprise with Captain Kirk

3009
02:20:27,870 --> 02:20:24,279
commanding and the Imperial Starfleet

3010
02:20:30,630 --> 02:20:27,880
etc to face whatever the universe throws

3011
02:20:33,389 --> 02:20:30,640
at us but don't we also know I really

3012
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need is FM Rena scientists who

3013
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invent warp drive and make it easier oh

3014
02:20:40,889 --> 02:20:38,410
well we're working on that you can have

3015
02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:40,899
me back and talk about that on another

3016
02:20:49,469 --> 02:20:44,260
show I wrote another book called beyond

3017
02:20:53,130 --> 02:20:49,479
Einstein's unified field and warp drive

3018
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:53,140
orb drive we need water well by the way

3019
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:54,970
you don't need warp drive to defend the

3020
02:20:57,630 --> 02:20:55,210
earth

3021
02:21:00,599 --> 02:20:57,640
you just need big spaceships with

3022
02:21:03,979 --> 02:21:00,609
nuclear power and big lasers and big

3023
02:21:10,410 --> 02:21:03,989
hydrogen bomb missiles I would think

3024
02:21:12,690 --> 02:21:10,420
excuse me if et used advanced nuclear

3025
02:21:14,010 --> 02:21:12,700
weapons you know they wouldn't be that

3026
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:14,020
far ahead of us

3027
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:15,369
now I'll give you the wacky theory there

3028
02:21:19,109 --> 02:21:16,720
occurs to me which has nothing to do

3029
02:21:21,090 --> 02:21:19,119
with your book all right because we have

3030
02:21:22,590 --> 02:21:21,100
about a couple minutes left with this

3031
02:21:25,370 --> 02:21:22,600
segment give you the wacky theory the

3032
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:25,380
wacky theory is there was once on earth

3033
02:21:30,750 --> 02:21:27,850
thousands of years ago a highly advanced

3034
02:21:32,609 --> 02:21:30,760
civilization Atlantis Lemuria we

3035
02:21:36,929 --> 02:21:32,619
destroyed ourselves for whatever reason

3036
02:21:40,019 --> 02:21:36,939
but we were a spacefaring race and we

3037
02:21:41,939 --> 02:21:40,029
went up to Mars and nuke them for

3038
02:21:44,429 --> 02:21:41,949
whatever reason we did it

3039
02:21:46,559 --> 02:21:44,439
somebody suggested I should go to this

3040
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:46,569
conference and present this and I knew

3041
02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:47,920
the conference organizer

3042
02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:52,810
and I like I know what he'll say he'll

3043
02:22:00,809 --> 02:21:54,310
say that the United States government

3044
02:22:02,519 --> 02:22:00,819
wiped out wash using time travel so I

3045
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wrote a book claiming that the Army

3046
02:22:09,960 --> 02:22:07,020
Corps of Engineers dug the Grand Canyon

3047
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:09,970
probably the same guy anyway I'll just

3048
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say that you know I grew up in a rough

3049
02:22:20,429 --> 02:22:17,890
town I can tell you bullies do not like

3050
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a real fight that's the last thing they

3051
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want and a you know they're looking for

3052
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a pushover somebody shows up here with

3053
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giant hydrogen bombs to drop on the

3054
02:22:39,210 --> 02:22:35,770
earth and we're ready for them they're

3055
02:22:44,880 --> 02:22:39,220
there he'll just leave they'll just say

3056
02:22:45,269 --> 02:22:44,890
op expedition cancelled is too much

3057
02:22:47,069 --> 02:22:45,279
trouble

3058
02:22:49,979 --> 02:22:47,079
yeah that's let's hope it doesn't come

3059
02:22:52,139 --> 02:22:49,989
to that I mean we're having a hard time

3060
02:22:55,740 --> 02:22:52,149
just not destroying ourselves with all

3061
02:22:59,689 --> 02:22:55,750
the violence and and just frat aside in

3062
02:23:03,029 --> 02:22:59,699
my in my novel about the UFO cover-up

3063
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one of the characters says the greys

3064
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people are talking about how smart the

3065
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greys are and he says the greys can't be

3066
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that smart maybe Nick Redfern in the in

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his book final events the Collins elite

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you know these these real sort of

3069
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Christian fundamentalists within the

3070
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government think

3071
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they're harvesting souls that these are

3072
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that these are demons harvesting our

3073
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souls and that explain anything about

3074
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ufology to a Christian fundamentalist

3075
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they will immediately make the sign of

3076
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the Cross and go get their gun that's

3077
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what the the reaction of anyone who is a

3078
02:24:02,940 --> 02:23:59,290
a Christian to the greys and the stuff

3079
02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:02,950
they've what supported entities called

3080
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the greys and the reported things that

3081
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they have done is to imagine these

3082
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people as children of the devil to be

3083
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dispatched immediately yeah well yeah

3084
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let's just attach this segment

3085
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immediately and get to another one with

3086
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extreme prejudice with Gene and Kris

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3194
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3195
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Brandenburg death on Mars is the book

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Chris maybe you can sneak in a couple of

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the best challenge of criticism of your

3202
02:29:28,309 --> 02:29:27,720
ideas included to come from and what can

3203
02:29:30,199 --> 02:29:28,319
be done

3204
02:29:32,170 --> 02:29:30,209
by way of further research or

3205
02:29:38,210 --> 02:29:32,180
investigation to rebuke this criticism

3206
02:29:40,300 --> 02:29:38,220
well I'm sending a team there the

3207
02:29:42,739 --> 02:29:40,310
criticisms I inferred are that

3208
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:42,749
Brandenburg you have taken a bunch of

3209
02:29:49,849 --> 02:29:46,770
weird instances on the planet Mars which

3210
02:29:54,229 --> 02:29:49,859
is a different planet and you know you

3211
02:29:56,420 --> 02:29:54,239
have interpreted them you know as you

3212
02:29:59,960 --> 02:29:56,430
put your interpretation on a bunch of

3213
02:30:02,359 --> 02:29:59,970
coincidences you know they basically say

3214
02:30:04,519 --> 02:30:02,369
oh yeah well there was an asteroid that

3215
02:30:07,849 --> 02:30:04,529
crashed on Mars and spread you know

3216
02:30:09,409 --> 02:30:07,859
radioactive stuff on Mars and Mars is a

3217
02:30:10,249 --> 02:30:09,419
weird place so it's got a lot of xenon

3218
02:30:13,519 --> 02:30:10,259
129

3219
02:30:20,420 --> 02:30:13,529
you know the ludicrous

3220
02:30:23,479 --> 02:30:20,430
I know facts I'm going to this

3221
02:30:25,699 --> 02:30:23,489
conference and I'm going to look at the

3222
02:30:29,269 --> 02:30:25,709
other hypotheses that people are

3223
02:30:30,979 --> 02:30:29,279
proposed and basically show that they

3224
02:30:33,380 --> 02:30:30,989
are not adequate if there was a black a

3225
02:30:36,139 --> 02:30:33,390
big radioactive asteroid crashed on Mars

3226
02:30:38,090 --> 02:30:36,149
then there would be a big crater where

3227
02:30:40,969 --> 02:30:38,100
the radiation is and there's no crater

3228
02:30:42,619 --> 02:30:40,979
it's just smooth it's one of the few

3229
02:30:43,399 --> 02:30:42,629
places on Mars where there aren't any

3230
02:30:47,149 --> 02:30:43,409
craters

3231
02:30:49,099 --> 02:30:47,159
I mean it's of any size especially a set

3232
02:30:52,909 --> 02:30:49,109
of a 200 mile wide crater there's

3233
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:52,919
nothing and so if there was a big

3234
02:30:57,619 --> 02:30:54,930
asteroid that was full of radioactive

3235
02:31:01,130 --> 02:30:57,629
stuff the landed on Mars it would have

3236
02:31:04,340 --> 02:31:01,140
made a big crater and it there's no

3237
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:04,350
crater there so that was one of the that

3238
02:31:07,460 --> 02:31:05,730
was one of the proposal

3239
02:31:09,430 --> 02:31:07,470
well Brandenburg you you know there was

3240
02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:09,440
some big radioactive asteroid hit Mars

3241
02:31:16,671 --> 02:31:13,530
and I said you know and cause some of

3242
02:31:21,350 --> 02:31:16,681
this stuff and then xenon 129 they say

3243
02:31:23,960 --> 02:31:21,360
well they said that's just a that's just

3244
02:31:26,060 --> 02:31:23,970
a freak freak thing of Mars their large

3245
02:31:28,250 --> 02:31:26,070
there's a weird planet yeah deal with it

3246
02:31:32,060 --> 02:31:28,260
it's weird okay yeah well no they said

3247
02:31:36,110 --> 02:31:32,070
that big a big asteroid of of iodine 129

3248
02:31:39,710 --> 02:31:36,120
crashed on Mars and injected all the Z

3249
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:39,720
then decayed into 129 xenon 129 which

3250
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:42,450
you know you can okay there's okay and

3251
02:31:48,650 --> 02:31:44,000
then I asked where'd all the radioactive

3252
02:31:53,360 --> 02:31:48,660
zina iodine 129 come from they said well

3253
02:31:55,551 --> 02:31:53,370
we don't have to explain that so you

3254
02:31:57,710 --> 02:31:55,561
know II know your people you get people

3255
02:31:59,301 --> 02:31:57,720
who just say oh well this is just its

3256
02:32:02,921 --> 02:31:59,311
Mars is a different plan it's got this

3257
02:32:06,440 --> 02:32:02,931
weird stuff it just can't be so well

3258
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:06,450
it's you've got to admit it's a big

3259
02:32:13,580 --> 02:32:10,650
thing to swallow ya know and then and

3260
02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:13,590
then some people have said why did you

3261
02:32:19,700 --> 02:32:15,690
bring in Cydonia and I said because I

3262
02:32:23,450 --> 02:32:19,710
can read a map yeah it's kind of hard to

3263
02:32:26,511 --> 02:32:23,460
are the new hot spots yeah where where

3264
02:32:28,370 --> 02:32:26,521
the civilization sites are found and I

3265
02:32:32,060 --> 02:32:28,380
said I can read a map am I supposed to

3266
02:32:33,591 --> 02:32:32,070
ignore that yeah and and so so those are

3267
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:33,601
the kind of criticisms I've encountered

3268
02:32:42,171 --> 02:32:37,530
is that the nuclear stuff can be as a

3269
02:32:44,690 --> 02:32:42,181
bunch of weird coincidences and no it's

3270
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:44,700
kind of like you find a dead body in

3271
02:32:48,320 --> 02:32:46,650
your backyard and somebody shows up says

3272
02:32:52,850 --> 02:32:48,330
that natural causes or please pay no

3273
02:32:54,261 --> 02:32:52,860
more attention and you know don't if you

3274
02:32:56,750 --> 02:32:54,271
know what's good for you you won't ask

3275
02:32:58,250 --> 02:32:56,760
any questions about this these things

3276
02:33:00,980 --> 02:32:58,260
happen all let's just ignore those two

3277
02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:00,990
big knife wounds or the big one knife

3278
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:05,370
wounds in the body and so anyway I'm

3279
02:33:09,020 --> 02:33:07,290
going to the conference and I'm just

3280
02:33:11,270 --> 02:33:09,030
going to talk about the nuclear data and

3281
02:33:13,370 --> 02:33:11,280
the evidence or the big explode well I'm

3282
02:33:15,250 --> 02:33:13,380
just calling Lee for the sake of the

3283
02:33:17,451 --> 02:33:15,260
conference I'm just calling it anomalous

3284
02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:17,461
you know unknown

3285
02:33:25,821 --> 02:33:20,730
a smart way to go well if you can

3286
02:33:29,151 --> 02:33:25,831
isolate the most quantitative part of

3287
02:33:31,401 --> 02:33:29,161
this argument from the you know when you

3288
02:33:33,291 --> 02:33:31,411
get into the cydonia pictures you know

3289
02:33:35,331 --> 02:33:33,301
those are automatically controversial

3290
02:33:37,881 --> 02:33:35,341
yeah people's eyes glaze only I've shown

3291
02:33:40,371 --> 02:33:37,891
the pictures of all of the latest the

3292
02:33:43,401 --> 02:33:40,381
new pictures from Cydonia and they say I

3293
02:33:45,501 --> 02:33:43,411
don't even see a face yeah well there is

3294
02:33:49,941 --> 02:33:45,511
some question how accurate those

3295
02:33:53,331 --> 02:33:49,951
photographs are that you know and I

3296
02:33:57,591 --> 02:33:53,341
remember showing a inning expert the

3297
02:33:59,781 --> 02:33:57,601
tapes from the shuttle he offered I

3298
02:34:02,601 --> 02:33:59,791
mentioned this to him and he said he was

3299
02:34:04,911 --> 02:34:02,611
an expert at enhancing tapes and I

3300
02:34:07,301 --> 02:34:04,921
remember so I went to his house and I

3301
02:34:10,821 --> 02:34:07,311
brought a videotape from the shuttle

3302
02:34:13,911 --> 02:34:10,831
downlinks and showed him some of the

3303
02:34:15,711 --> 02:34:13,921
stuff and he says that's strange he says

3304
02:34:22,161 --> 02:34:15,721
I don't see anything unusual in these

3305
02:34:23,841 --> 02:34:22,171
caves so I finished my beer you know we

3306
02:34:25,671 --> 02:34:23,851
were both sitting there looking drinking

3307
02:34:27,351 --> 02:34:25,681
a beer and looking at he just said I

3308
02:34:28,581 --> 02:34:27,361
don't see anything unusual on these

3309
02:34:33,951 --> 02:34:28,591
tapes I don't know what you guys are

3310
02:34:37,461 --> 02:34:33,961
talking about and I finally realized no

3311
02:34:40,431 --> 02:34:37,471
he doesn't see anything yeah and so I

3312
02:34:42,441 --> 02:34:40,441
just thank him for his time looks like

3313
02:34:52,220 --> 02:34:42,451
Colonel who's the guy at Hogan's here oh

3314
02:34:53,931 --> 02:34:52,230
I see Sarge another question before we

3315
02:34:56,151 --> 02:34:53,941
go here I've got a bunch of questions I

3316
02:34:58,941 --> 02:34:56,161
wanted to get to but you mentioned

3317
02:35:01,970 --> 02:34:58,951
before in the past that we really could

3318
02:35:03,921 --> 02:35:01,980
use a commercially viable hybrid fusion

3319
02:35:09,231 --> 02:35:03,931
fission reactor how close do you think

3320
02:35:12,291 --> 02:35:09,241
we are to we we have the technology to

3321
02:35:14,931 --> 02:35:12,301
build that well why aren't we doing

3322
02:35:18,651 --> 02:35:14,941
right now are the gas oil companies and

3323
02:35:21,171 --> 02:35:18,661
good enough and the the fission

3324
02:35:23,241 --> 02:35:21,181
engineering you know is the same as for

3325
02:35:26,951 --> 02:35:23,251
a regular water or cooled reactor so I

3326
02:35:30,580 --> 02:35:26,961
think we we can solve the energy crisis

3327
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:30,590
well I mean the items hang on

3328
02:35:36,410 --> 02:35:33,210
unfortunately as you've noticed the

3329
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:36,420
price of gas going up and down we're not

3330
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:40,410
exactly in control of food of the energy

3331
02:35:48,350 --> 02:35:44,730
supply in this country well up until

3332
02:35:50,390 --> 02:35:48,360
this last you know some people call it a

3333
02:35:52,091 --> 02:35:50,400
catastrophic events in the oil industry

3334
02:35:57,350 --> 02:35:52,101
we have the largest exporter of

3335
02:35:59,060 --> 02:35:57,360
petroleum and petroleum products yep but

3336
02:36:02,270 --> 02:35:59,070
we're not in control doesn't matter just

3337
02:36:05,390 --> 02:36:02,280
a fast question arrow final question dr.

3338
02:36:07,070 --> 02:36:05,400
brand air alright one of the chances

3339
02:36:09,530 --> 02:36:07,080
that we're going to really go to Mars

3340
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:09,540
and figure this out anytime in our

3341
02:36:14,511 --> 02:36:11,840
lifetimes I mean now we're talking about

3342
02:36:19,940 --> 02:36:14,521
2035 and I can bet if we're still around

3343
02:36:24,620 --> 02:36:19,950
in 2035 they'll be talking 2045 no no I

3344
02:36:26,660 --> 02:36:24,630
think this is going to be solved you

3345
02:36:30,140 --> 02:36:26,670
wake up one morning and suddenly people

3346
02:36:33,140 --> 02:36:30,150
are saying okay we're going to Mars and

3347
02:36:35,091 --> 02:36:33,150
we're laying inside oniel that's the way

3348
02:36:37,310 --> 02:36:35,101
those that will happen don't just say oh

3349
02:36:41,420 --> 02:36:37,320
oh by the way we're landing inside donee

3350
02:36:43,430 --> 02:36:41,430
immense and we're doing it next week dr.

3351
02:36:46,091 --> 02:36:43,440
Brandenburg where can we find more of

3352
02:36:49,790 --> 02:36:46,101
the stuff that you talk and write about

3353
02:36:51,350 --> 02:36:49,800
let's see we can find well I wrote the

3354
02:36:54,290 --> 02:36:51,360
science fiction novels under a pen name

3355
02:36:56,930 --> 02:36:54,300
victor no regard you can find that at

3356
02:36:58,551 --> 02:36:56,940
amazon.com amazon.com you can find

3357
02:37:02,270 --> 02:36:58,561
everything I've written okay under

3358
02:37:05,450 --> 02:37:02,280
either Brandenburg or Victor no regard

3359
02:37:07,551 --> 02:37:05,460
is my pen name for science pictures you

3360
02:37:09,980 --> 02:37:07,561
can find how to get a copy of stalking

3361
02:37:12,380 --> 02:37:09,990
the tricksters by christopher o'brien by

3362
02:37:15,890 --> 02:37:12,390
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02:37:46,070 --> 02:37:43,530
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3375
02:37:49,490 --> 02:37:46,080
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3376
02:37:52,160 --> 02:37:49,500
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3377
02:37:54,620 --> 02:37:52,170
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3378
02:37:55,820 --> 02:37:54,630
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3379
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3380
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3391
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3392
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3393
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3394
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3399
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3400
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02:39:01,510 --> 02:38:58,479
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3402
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3403
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